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US Could Be Ready for War in Iraq This Year
Yahoo News ^ | 10/10/02 | Charles Aldinger - Reuters

Posted on 10/10/2002 8:23:39 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

US Could Be Ready for War in Iraq This Year
Thu Oct 10,10:33 AM ET

By Charles Aldinger

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. military could be prepared for war with Iraq as soon as December even though President Bush (news - web sites) has not decided whether to pull the trigger on Baghdad, according to U.S. officials and analysts.

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Experts in and out of government said five U.S. aircraft carriers with 350 warplanes could be off Iraq before year's end if ordered and tens of thousands of troops could be sent much more quickly than the six-months build-up to the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites).

"We are not now on a war footing," stressed one of the U.S. officials, who asked not to be identified, in interviews with Reuters. "But this isn't 1991. We have tanks, lots of stuff in the region waiting for drivers and shooters."

"If there's a fight, winter would be better," a senior military officer said, referring to major discomfort that U.S. -- and perhaps British and other strike troops -- would suffer if forced to don bulky biological-chemical warfare protective suits in Iraq's summer desert heat.

A contrasting background of cold ground would also help heat-seeking missiles and bombs to find warm targets from anti-aircraft missile emplacements to tanks.

Even as the Bush administration presses the United Nations (news - web sites) and U.S. Congress to give strict disarmament deadlines to Baghdad, the White House and Pentagon (news - web sites) expect that President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), who Washington accuses of developing chemical, biological and nuclear arms, will trigger a war by eventually halting unfettered U.N. arms inspections.

While the Pentagon is counting on major military help from Britain and other European and Gulf allies, officials said U.S. military preparations had been accelerated since August, including plans to send up to three aircraft carriers from bases in California and Japan if ordered.

POWERFUL PUNCH FROM CARRIERS

They could join the carriers Abraham Lincoln in the Gulf and the George Washington, now in the Mediterranean. Five battle groups would include several dozen cruisers and destroyers armed with long-range cruise missiles.

The carrier jets would join nearly 300 U.S. aircraft already in the region at bases from Turkey to a British airfield on the island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean.

The U.S. officials confirmed a New York Times report that some elite Special Operations forces have been told to separate temporarily from the military and join up with clandestine CIA (news - web sites) paramilitary units for any early "shadow" campaign against Saddam and his top supporters.

British newspapers have reported that Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites)'s government is ready to offer at least 20,000 troops and dozens of warplanes to the war effort. And the Jerusalem Post reported last week that Israeli Defense Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer predicted an American attack on Iraq by late November.

While media reports of U.S. war plans have varied widely from the use of 50,000 to 200,000-plus troops, officials and private experts have said an invasion would lean heavily on air power and not require the massive U.S.-led assault of 500,000 troops used to drive Iraqi forces from Kuwait 11 years ago.

"You could start a reasonably good war in December by getting at least a couple of heavy divisions (about 40,000 troops) into the region," said former Assistant Defense Secretary Larry Korb, now with the Council on Foreign Relations in New York.

"You could start bombing them and initially send troops in from the south and see what happened. That could be accelerated, but if the Iraqi military quickly collapses from air strikes, it's going to take about 100,000 troops to hold down the country," Korb added.

FINAL BUILD-UP HARD TO HIDE

He and other analysts stressed that any unscheduled movement of carriers could not be kept secret and would signal a final build-up.

Bush, they said, would also have to use emergency powers to call tens of thousands of part-time U.S. military reserve and National Guard troops to active duty ahead of any action.

There are 60,000 such "weekend warriors" on active duty from a major call-up for the war on terrorism declared after last year's attacks on America. But many more would be needed for tasks from fighting and refueling attack planes to providing intelligence and directing traffic.

The U.S. Central Command, which would oversee fighting in Iraq, openly reported last month that it would move 600 members of its key headquarters staff from Florida to Qatar near Iraq for an exercise in November and was considering making that shift permanent.

Central Command chief Army Gen. Tommy Franks will take part in what is scheduled to be a three-week deployment to modern Al Udeid Air Base near Doha in friendly Qatar for command post exercise "Internal Look."

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has flatly refused to discuss any war plans and denounced detailed media reports on military options being studied by Bush to end Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs and perhaps oust Saddam.

But he suggested to reporters who traveled with him to a NATO (news - web sites) meeting in Warsaw last month that any invasion of Iraq would directly target Baghdad's "dictatorial, repressive" government while attempting to spare the Iraqi people.

The Washington Post reported that massive U.S. air strikes and simultaneous ground attacks could concentrate on "regime targets" such as Saddam's palaces, bodyguards, bunkers and hometown power center of Tikrit.

There are more than 250 U.S. attack jets based in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Turkey and being used to patrol "no-fly" Zones over northern and southern Iraq. The Saudis have indicated that jets based on their territory could not be used for an invasion of Iraq unless it was fully supported by the United Nations.

But a large number of warplanes could be flown out of al Udeid in Qatar, and the United States is discussing with Britain permission to build shelters for bat-wing B-2 stealth bombers on Diego Garcia.



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1 posted on 10/10/2002 8:23:40 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Oh cmon. "President has not yet decided

He HAS decided to launch war, and within the next few weeks. The American military ramp up that anyone can notice, in addition to 'training' in areas near Gulf, and other call ups, and the Senate and House votes, shows that we are in fact going to war. The worldwide press knows this as well.

2 posted on 10/10/2002 8:49:36 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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The U.S. military could be prepared for war with Iraq as soon as December, according to U.S. officials and analysts. Experts in and out of government said five U.S. aircraft carriers with 350 warplanes could be off Iraq before year's end if ordered and tens of thousands of troops could be sent much more quickly than the six-months build-up to the 1991 Gulf War (<a href='http://rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news?p=%22Gulf%20War%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw'>news</a> - <a href='http://rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?cs=nw&p=Gulf%20War'>web sites</a>). An F-16CJ patrols the Northern No-Fly Zone over Iraq in an undated photo. (Vincent A. Parker/USAF via Reuters)
Thu Oct 10,11:28 AM ET

The U.S. military could be prepared for war with Iraq as soon as December, according to U.S. officials and analysts. Experts in and out of government said five U.S. aircraft carriers with 350 warplanes could be off Iraq before year's end if ordered and tens of thousands of troops could be sent much more quickly than the six-months build-up to the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites). An F-16CJ patrols the Northern No-Fly Zone over Iraq in an undated photo. (Vincent A. Parker/USAF via Reuters)

3 posted on 10/10/2002 9:11:24 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
To do this right, I would say the activation of at least 50,000 more reservists would be required. Perhaps more. You're talking a huge reliance on airpower and air mobility. The biggest chunk of pilots and support crews for MAC (and even combat fighters) is reservists.

And if they take in more than a couple divisions (which they should), that number could be as high as 100,000 reservists.

4 posted on 10/10/2002 11:43:06 AM PDT by fogarty
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To: NormsRevenge
United States is discussing with Britain permission to build shelters for bat-wing B-2 stealth bombers on Diego Garcia.

I thought that was a done deal!

5 posted on 10/10/2002 11:56:19 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: clodhopper
He doesent need an excuse. It all for oil money, aint that right, shill? He can make his friends rich!! Even a simpleton like yourself can figure that out! Then, afterwards, you can have him impeached!! Yaaay!
7 posted on 10/10/2002 1:57:39 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: clodhopper
All he needs now is an excuse to attack. The lies put forward up to now by Bush's admin. wouldn't fool a simpleton!

Excuse? Try breach of 16 UN resolutions, or attempted assassination of G.H.W. Bush.

I know who the simpleton is. He signed up 28 Sep. 2002 on FR.

8 posted on 10/10/2002 2:24:53 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: NormsRevenge
It'll be by the end of October. One of two scenarios:

1. UN Resolution passes next week. Iraq spouts defiance. We go in.

2. UN Resolution vetoed by PRC and France. We go in to take down al-Qaida members hiding there, pointing out the findings in the Congressional Resolution.

Either way, the clock's ticking, and it's really a matter of days.
9 posted on 10/10/2002 2:35:36 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: NormsRevenge
"You could start a reasonably good war in December by getting at least a couple of heavy divisions (about 40,000 troops) into the region," said former Assistant Defense Secretary Larry Korb

Stress on "former." It's going to be dangerous even if the enemy sits on their country estates and watches the parade go by. There are tons of chemicals and biologicals that would be hard to deal with and dispose of in the best of times.

10 posted on 10/10/2002 2:43:45 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: fogarty
The best public guesstimate I've seen is an Oct. 1 Congressional Budget Office letter. They developed two planning assumptions -- Heavy Ground and Heavy Air. The Heavy Air scenario estimates 2 2/3 divisions (2 1/3 Army, 1/3 Marines); 16 air wings (10 Air Force, 5 Navy & 1 Marines); and 5 carrier battle groups, 1 surface action group, and 1 amphib ready group. A total of 253,000 troops in theater (202K active, 51K reserves) -- 93K Army, 63K Navy, 60K Air Force, 25K Marines, 12K Special Ops. Plus the Brits are going to furnish a brigade, a carrier battle group, and 2 RAF combat squadrons -- 21K troops. Personally, that sounds like overkill to me.

What many Americans don't realize is that much of this force is already in theater, including Iraq. We've got a brigade in Kuwait, and a Marine brigade afloat. We've got Army engineers building airfields in northern Iraq to take C-141 & C-130 transports and we've Special Ops people operating in northern and western Iraq with the Turks and Jordanians respectively. We've got enough equipment for a 2nd Army brigade in Kuwait, a second Marine MEB afloat, and a 3rd Army brigade enroute. There are 2 carrier battle groups in theater with their air wings to be joined by 2 others in early December. There are 2 Air Force wings in theater. CENTCOM is moving its operational headquarters to Qatar next week. And the Brits have planned "exercises" that will "coincidentally", bring a carrier battle group, the Desert Rats and SAS/SBS in theater. Yesterday, the Coalition conducted 38 combat sorties against the Iraqis.

There are rumors of Iraqi generals ready to switch sides in northern Iraq at the first shot.

I've read estimates that the force necessary could be in theater a couple weeks after Presidential authorization. command decision.








11 posted on 10/10/2002 4:18:45 PM PDT by Man of the Right
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To: truth_seeker
Try breach of 16 UN resolutions...

So we're going to war for the UN, huh?

...or attempted assassination of G.H.W. Bush

According to Bill Clinton, that is.

12 posted on 10/10/2002 4:41:07 PM PDT by inquest
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To: NormsRevenge
Figure this gets kicked around for another few months in the UN, with more weapons inspections hoopla to kill time, then military action cranks up sometime in the spring of 2003. Anthrax vaccine will be on hand to protect the civilian population by early 2004, so figure that Bush will time things so that Saddam's back is to the wall about six months before the next Presidential election -- and not before.
13 posted on 10/10/2002 4:47:12 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: clodhopper
The people of the world are beginning to cry for a regime change

Only they dont vote in the US elections or give money to U.S. candidates since Bill Clinton left office (at least not as often)

So.. who cares what they think? And who cares what you think besides Michael Moore, Barbie Streisand and Noam Chomsky??

16 posted on 10/11/2002 1:54:25 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: clodhopper
Bush is in problems.

What planet are you hopping your clods on?

Yesterday the house and senate passed what Bush asked for by better than a 2 to 1 margin. That to you is problems?

Bush continues to enjoy extremely favorable ratings. That to you is problems?

What does Israel have to do with the current agenda, by the UN and by the US for Iraq? Or for you, does Israel ALWAYS pop up as a principle subject?

Noting your signup date 28 Sep. 2002.

17 posted on 10/11/2002 3:09:16 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: clodhopper
Well, what WOULD it take to fool you?
18 posted on 10/11/2002 3:14:53 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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