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Jimmy Carter awarded Nobel Peace Prize
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Posted on 10/11/2002 2:03:14 AM PDT by HAL9000

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To: The Great Satan
Oh, well. At least it wasn't Osama bin Laden

It was a close decision ... but there's always next year ....

181 posted on 10/11/2002 2:23:49 PM PDT by clamper1797
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To: HAL9000
Jimmy Carter, teaching Sunday School there in Plains every Sunday. What a Christian man he is as he belongs to the baby killing democratic party, bad mouths a sitting president while in foreign countries and shows disrespect for the very leader God has allowed for this time-- Jimmy Carter you are a hypocrite and a traitor.
182 posted on 10/11/2002 2:35:10 PM PDT by oregon conservative
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To: MeeknMing
Carter's incompetence brought the current Iranian terrorist regime to power.

http://www.chuckmorse.com/carter_sold_out_iran.html

As if a light were switched off, the Shah of Iran, Mohammad Reza Pahlevi, portrayed for 20 years as a progressive modern ruler by Islamic standards, was suddenly, in 1977-1978, turned into this foaming at the mouth monster by the international left media. Soon after becoming President in 1977, Jimmy Carter launched a deliberate campaign to undermine the Shah. The Soviets and their left-wing apparatchiks would coordinate with Carter by smearing the Shah in a campaign of lies meant to topple his throne. The result would be the establishment of a Marxist/Islamic state in Iran headed by the tyrannical Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. The Iranian revolution, besides enthroning one of the world's most oppressive regimes, would greatly contribute to the creation of the Marxist/Islamic terror network challenging the free world today.

At the time, a senior Iranian diplomat in Washington observed, "President Carter betrayed the Shah and helped create the vacuum that will soon be filled by Soviet-trained agents and religious fanatics who hate America." Under the guise of promoting" human rights," Carter made demands on the Shah while blackmailing him with the threat that if the demands weren't fulfilled, vital military aid and training would be withheld. This strange policy, carried out against a staunch, 20 year Middle East ally, was a repeat of similar policies applied in the past by US governments to other allies such as pre Mao China and pre Castro Cuba.

Carter started by pressuring the Shah to release "political prisoners" including known terrorists and to put an end to military tribunals. The newly released terrorists would be tried under civil jurisdiction with the Marxist/Islamists using these trials as a platform for agitation and propaganda. This is a standard tactic of the left then and now. The free world operates at a distinct dis-advantage to Marxist and Islamic nations in this regard as in those countries, trials are staged to "show" the political faith of the ruling elite. Fair trials, an independent judiciary, and a search for justice is considered to be a western bourgeois prejudice.

Carter pressured Iran to allow for "free assembly" which meant that groups would be able to meet and agitate for the overthrow of the government. It goes without saying that such rights didn't exist in any Marxist or Islamic nation. The planned and predictable result of these policies was an escalation of opposition to the Shah, which would be viewed by his enemies as a weakness. A well-situated internal apparatus in Iran receiving its marching orders from the Kremlin egged on this growing opposition.

By the fall of 1977, university students, working in tandem with a Shi'ite clergy that had long opposed the Shah's modernizing policies, began a well coordinated and financed series of street demonstrations supported by a media campaign reminiscent of the 1947-1948 campaign against China's Chiang Ki Shek in favor of the "agrarian reformer" Mao tse Tung. At this point the Shah was unable to check the demonstrators, who were instigating violence as a means of inflaming the situation and providing their media stooges with atrocity propaganda. Rumors were circulating amongst Iranians that the CIA under the orders of President Carter organized these demonstrations.

In November 1977, the Shah and his Empress, Farah Diba, visited the White House where they were met with hostility. They were greeted by nearly 4,000 Marxist-led Iranian students, many wearing masks, waving clubs, and carrying banners festooned with the names of Iranian terrorist organizations. The rioters were allowed within 100 feet of the White House where they attacked other Iranians and Americans gathered to welcome the Shah. Only 15 were arrested and quickly released. Inside the White House, Carter pressured the Shah to implement even more radical changes. Meanwhile, the Soviets were mobilizing a campaign of propaganda, espionage, sabotage, and terror in Iran. The Shah was being squeezed on two sides.

In April 1978, Moscow would instigate a bloody coup in Afghanistan and install the communist puppet Nur Mohammad Taraki. Taraki would proceed to call for a "jihad" against the "Ikhwanu Shayateen" which translates into "brothers of devils," a label applied to opponents of the new red regime in Kabul and to the Iranian government. Subversives and Soviet-trained agents swarmed across the long Afghanistan/Iran border to infiltrate Shi'ite mosques and other Iranian institutions. By November 1978, there was an estimated 500,000 Soviet backed Afghanis in Iran where, among other activities, they set up training camps for terrorists.

Khomeini, a 78-year-old Shi'ite cleric whose brother had been imprisoned as a result of activities relating to his Iranian Communist party affiliations, and who had spent 15 years in exile in Ba'th Socialist Iraq, was poised to return. In exile, Khomeini spoke of the creation of a revolutionary Islamic republic, which would be anti-Western, socialist, and with total power in the hands of an ayatollah. In his efforts to violently overthrow the government of Iran, Khomeini received the full support of the Soviets.

Nureddin Klanuri, head of the Iranian Communist Tudeh Party, in exile in East Berlin, stated, "The Tudeh Party approves Ayatollah Khomeini's initiative in creating the Islamic Revolutionary Council. The ayatollah's program coincides with that of the Tudeh Party." Khomeini's closest advisor, Sadegh Ghothzadeh, was well known as a revolutionary with close links to communist intelligence. In January 1998, Pravda, the official Soviet organ, officially endorsed the Khomeini revolution.

American leaders were also supporting Khomeini. After the Pravda endorsement, Ramsey Clark, who served as Attorney General under President Lyndon B. Johnson, held a press conference where he reported on a trip to Iran and a Paris visit with Khomeini. He urged the US government to take no action to help the Shah so that Iran "could determine it's own fate." Clark played a behind the scenes role influencing members of Congress to not get involved in the crisis. Perhaps UN Ambassador Andrew Young best expressed the thinking of the left at the time when he stated that, if successful, Khomeini would "eventually be hailed as a saint."

Khomeini was allowed to seize power in Iran and, as a result, we are now reaping the harvest of anti-American fanaticism and extremism. Khomeini unleashed the hybrid of Islam and Marxism that has spawned suicide bombers and hijackers. President Jimmy Carter, and the extremists in his administration are to blame and should be held accountable.

183 posted on 10/11/2002 2:44:00 PM PDT by Athena2
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To: Nick5
Did Hitler , himself, murder all of the people, that his positions called for being tortured / starved / gassed ? Nope.

Because of Jimmy Carter's say so, thousands upon thousands ( probably millions ) of people, all over the world ( in Zimbabwe, South Africa, and Haiti, to name but a paltry few of the places ) have been tortured, starved, and / or killed. The equation stands. Too bad that you are too litteral / ill informed, to understand that.

184 posted on 10/11/2002 3:17:17 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: metesky
Probably not. Old Jimmy was still squacking about how horrible President Bush is, today. :-(
185 posted on 10/11/2002 3:18:32 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: eastforker
That's what makes FR so valuable. Many people can supply the missing / unknown facts, that usual sources ( most newspapers, regular T.V. and radio ) don't and never have done.
186 posted on 10/11/2002 3:20:32 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
You're right ... on all acounts. :-)
187 posted on 10/11/2002 3:23:44 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: HAL9000
If any US president deserves the Peace Prize it is Ronald Reagan not Jimmy Carter. What peace did Carter ever bring? His entire administration was a tale told by an idiot. How sickening.
188 posted on 10/11/2002 4:25:00 PM PDT by swampfox98
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To: HAL9000
I can't believe he beat out Bubba, Mumia and Mugabe to win. That's some stiff competition. With this kind of precedent, Saddam's a shoo-in to get the doorstop next year. Posthumously, of course.
189 posted on 10/11/2002 6:27:11 PM PDT by Argus
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To: HAL9000
Granted Carter was a horrible president, but he is a good man.

http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.org/documents/law.pdf

One of my favorite speeches.

190 posted on 10/11/2002 7:05:42 PM PDT by Mordoch
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To: HAL9000
Jimmy Carter awarded Nobel Peace Prize

What, no Peace Price for McDermott and Bonior?

191 posted on 10/11/2002 8:17:04 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Athena2
Good post, Athena2. A very educational read.
192 posted on 10/11/2002 8:38:20 PM PDT by TheEngineer
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To: Grampa Dave
Another "X" President I would like to see ride off into the sunset, living his life out of the limelight in obscurity. Gotta have that "face time" though, if nothing else.
His actions in Cuba took him another rung lower in the ladder of life IMO.
193 posted on 10/12/2002 12:45:25 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Athena2; All
***But wait, there's more: Like a set of Ginsu steak knives, Jimmy Carter's foreign policy sliced and diced all over the world.

The Soviets' hegemony over Eastern Europe went unchallenged, but for our withdrawal from the 1980 Olympics over the invasion of Afghanistan. Remember the Marielito boatlifts from Cuba, which included thousands of formerly-jailed criminals shipped to our shores? Or how about his sudden signing of the Panama Canal treaties, that gave away U.S. control of this vital, strategic waterway on our own hemisphere? In 1979, Carter established full diplomatic ties with China, completing what Richard Nixon started, and severed formal relations with Taiwan. Corporations loved that, but it provided little incentive for human-rights improvements. Just ask the veterans of Tiananmen Square and China's multitude of slave laborers.*** Shut up, Jimmy Carter: Debbie Schlussel says former prez should stick to peanuts

194 posted on 10/12/2002 4:31:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Mordoch
Granted Carter was a horrible president, but he is a good man.

I have a neighbor who is a "good man"--at least as "good" or "gooder" than Jimmy Carter. To his credit, his actions--or inactions--haven't placed the lives and freedoms of his neighbors at risk. Nor does he parade around the community publicly trumpeting his goodness and humility. Of course, the adulation of Eurosocialists will never be his--and not for mere reasons of logistics either.

If my community had a Jimmy Carter clone, he would be the neighbor who spends his days preaching from pulpit, prison, and soapbox about the need to show murderers, thieves, and arsonists tolerence and understanding. He would piously call them all "good men" with legitimate and even righteous unmet needs and concerns. He would condemn, lecture, and hector law enforcement and citizens employing self-defense for being narrow-minded and unchristian in seeking to prevent or punish the criminals. He would remind us all the Jesus Christ said we should not resist evil and that we are to give over our cloak if a criminal shoots and wounds us for our shirt. He would demand that the prisons be emptied and all criminal laws be repealed so that goodness might abound.

In is heart, Carter is essentially a libertarian anarchist of the Noam Chomsky school of thought.

195 posted on 10/12/2002 6:05:45 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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