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To: andy_card
Well, for starters your quote is from Daniel 4: 10 and 11, and you, not surprisingly 'forgot' to include that this was a dream of Nebuchadnezzar, who was asking for an interpretation of that dream. It in no way was written as fact.......which I'm sure you knew.

In your second reference, you are referring to an encounter between Jesus, who is God, and Satan, who are both capable of seeing things beyond that which is perceptible to humans. It is also not a lesson in geography. Of course, if you do not believe in the Divine, nor the Satanic, you will scoff at this. Then again, if you are wrong, your scoffing will not serve you well in the end, will it?

As to the reference to the waters above in Genesis. Many scientists who are Christians understand that there was a canopy of water over the earth that protected it before the flood. (Check out the lifespans before the flood, compared with the lifespans afterward). In the flood the canopy of water came down as rain, and flooded the earth (btw, all cultures on earth have legends of a universal flood), and was gone, leaving the earth unprotected.

The author of Genesis......most likely Moses......understood the power of God, his working through miracles, and I'm quite sure understood rain quite adequately.

If you allow the spiritual scales to be removed from your eyes, and view Scripture as it really is, without your cynicism, you might just find out what's really there.

61 posted on 10/11/2002 8:29:21 AM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: ohioWfan
Explain away:

Leviticus 11:6: The rabbit, though it chews the cud, does not have a split hoof; it is unclean for you.

I'm sure zoologists would be astonished to learn that rabbits chew their cud.

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Leviticus 11 20 " 'All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you.
21 There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground.

No flying creatures of any kind walk on all fours.

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Joshua 10 12 On the day the LORD gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the LORD in the presence of Israel: "O sun, stand still over Gibeon, O moon, over the Valley of Aijalon."
13 So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.
14 There has never been a day like it before or since, a day when the LORD listened to a man. Surely the LORD was fighting for Israel!

Oh yes, this makes sense... Shouldn't the EARTH have been stopped still?

63 posted on 10/11/2002 8:43:54 AM PDT by andy_card
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To: ohioWfan
Good post. It's fun when two long anwers are posted to the same post to compare thoughts. :^)
64 posted on 10/11/2002 8:44:21 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: ohioWfan
In your second reference, you are referring to an encounter between Jesus, who is God, and Satan, who are both capable of seeing things beyond that which is perceptible to humans.

So why bother climbing a mountain in the first place?

. Many scientists who are Christians understand that there was a canopy of water over the earth that protected it before the flood.

Huh? Were the laws of gravity still in their infancy? How did light get through the hovering ocean?

66 posted on 10/11/2002 8:49:20 AM PDT by andy_card
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