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Evidence Disproving Evolution
myself | 10/11/02 | gore3000

Posted on 10/11/2002 9:02:01 PM PDT by gore3000

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To: longshadow
Instead, a courier will be dipatched to your location with a small canister containing the cypher key embedded in his rectum

Hopefully not the self destruct canister! :-))

921 posted on 10/20/2002 7:51:51 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Piltdown_Woman
BTW, this fellow wouldn't be from Uranus, would he? ;-)

Madam; among refined company, it is referred to simply as "the Seventh Planet"....

922 posted on 10/20/2002 7:52:27 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: longshadow
Pardon...but if you've noticed, I'm not...oh never mind!
923 posted on 10/20/2002 7:57:30 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: PatrickHenry; Junior; gore3000
I made a response (#370, now deleted) addressed to "All" which was motivated by: post 364 by g3k,

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In post 375, AndrewC complained to the mods, and wildly distorted the nature of an earlier post and that latest one (#370) by claiming -- out of context -- that I had posted "a link inimical to the interests of the Catholic Church".

Yes, Mr Distortion which(post 364) was in response to your veiled attack in post 301 --- Not a bad idea, but they wouldn't get it. By the way, have you ever noticed that the evolution side of the debate, being the rational and mature side, never says equally idiotic things, such as: "Creationism = kiddy porn". (I've been tempted, but hey, there's no sport in kicking cripples.)

I posted your entire response to whattajoke. Gore3000 responded to that trash of yours, listing only the part with the veiled attack. All of this caused by a reference to communism/ID posted by jennyp which I pointed out in post 304.

You can try to hide behind claims of context but if you think the link is innocuous then repost it.

Finally, don't blame the Moderator for your lack of civility.

924 posted on 10/20/2002 8:14:07 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Piltdown_Woman
And did you use your crystal ball or the tarot cards to deduce this bit of slander?

So your post must be libel.

925 posted on 10/20/2002 8:17:22 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: DWPittelli
Not to take sides, but aren't you more or less presupposing the existence of that cell? The "experiment" thus becomes one of development -- evolution in the original sense, like that of a fetus in a womb. A womb, as you know, isn't a closed system either.
926 posted on 10/20/2002 8:21:50 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: AndrewC; Junior
Hmmm...there are a whole bunch of New-Agers out there who use precisely those tools to gather information and would take offense at your suggestion of libel. My question was directed at discovering exactly what method G3K used to look into Junior's heart and deduce that he is not a Catholic. I would very much like to know how he does this.
927 posted on 10/20/2002 8:36:00 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: Piltdown_Woman
Hmmm...there are a whole bunch of New-Agers out there who use precisely those tools to gather information and would take offense at your suggestion of libel.

You are the one that brought up the use of those things. I merely pointed out for consistency that you would label yourself as libelous, if your original statement were true. I wouldn't know about New-Agers, but I note Darwininian paleontologists often use similar techniques to classify bones.

928 posted on 10/20/2002 9:16:26 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
Darwininian paleontologists often use similar techniques to classify bones.

Gee, I must have missed those classes during my undergraduate...darned shame too, for I could have dispensed with my microscope and rock hammer. Goodness! I never would have had to do field work, if what you suggest is true. I think I'll trot right down to the university and get the student-version paleontologist crystal ball.

929 posted on 10/20/2002 9:29:02 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: Piltdown_Woman
Goodness! I never would have had to do field work, if what you suggest is true

Yes, that would save a lot of wear and tear on the ole shin bones. From the nice comfort of your easy chair you too can select the mesonychus as the whale ancestor, and ignore DNA evidence until someone finds another bone. Then you can announce that the caldron stirrers were somewhat correct and reject the mesonychus as the whale ancestor and an also-ran in the game of Darwininian evolution. Using the same crystal ball cousin, or the real thing if you prefer, you can crown the Pakicetus as the whale ancestor, even though the DNA evidence shows the Hippo and the whale belong deep in the artiodactyl tree, and have the Paki lying outside the artiodactyl tree with the ambulocetus as a close parallel relative. But you wisely keep your mouth shut lest anyone point out that all the fossil layouts using these two fossil animals show them as Pakicetus leading to ambulocetus. Well anyway that is what the other channel on the Dawininian crystal ball shows.

930 posted on 10/20/2002 11:42:29 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
If you are referring to the "pedophile priest" link, if there are pedophile priests (and evidently there are) any protestations I'd have would be moot, wouldn't they?
931 posted on 10/21/2002 1:55:25 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Junior
If you are referring to the "pedophile priest" link ...

That was one of the links, yes. As I said, you've seen it before. Isn't it just wonderful that one of the blues brothers was so vigilent, alerting the mods in order to protect you from being exposed to that information? These are the victories of the C side of things -- won by distorting reality and then using censorship. It's the only kind of victory they can ever have.

As long as we're foolish enough to have government-run schools, these people must never be given control over our children's minds.

932 posted on 10/21/2002 3:13:33 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry; Junior; gore3000; f.Christian; xzins
alerting the mods in order to protect you from being exposed to that information?

Another funny coming from the person who has lately been waving "the shut this person up" flag on f.christian. In any case, Junior has just provided another data point to others about his "religiosity".

Please, if you are so concerned about getting the truth out post that link again. While you are at it, buzz the RCC community(Catholic_list).

933 posted on 10/21/2002 6:48:15 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
. In any case, Junior has just provided another data point to others about his "religiosity".

And what data point would that be? That I tolerate the posting of a link about pedophile priests? What am I supposed to do, deny that such things go on? Being Catholic does not mean one turns a blind eye to the foibles of the church.

934 posted on 10/21/2002 10:47:41 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Junior
Catholic does not mean one turns a blind eye to the foibles of the church.

Of course not, but you are no Bob Dornan with the actions you have taken or failed to take.

935 posted on 10/21/2002 11:04:40 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
And what actions would those be? And what's Bob Dornan got to do with the price of tea in China? You seldom write enough in your posts to be instantly clear.
936 posted on 10/21/2002 11:12:03 AM PDT by Junior
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To: RadioAstronomer; Condorman
bogus Ph.D

I am sure that when some atheist writes in to an ad in the back of Rolling Stone and gets an ordination you'd understand the humor...

I mean...I do.

They say a good sense of humor is a sign of intelligence.

I also said that I don't agree with everything Hovind says/does, however I think his basic idea deserves more thorough examination, which will never happen, because it directly contradicts evolution. That attitude, to me, is patently unscientific.

937 posted on 10/21/2002 11:24:57 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Junior
And what actions would those be? And what's Bob Dornan got to do with the price of tea in China

Bob Dornan is a devout Roman Catholic, who by his actions demonstrates the depth and character of his core beliefs. He decries the problems indicated by the mentioned incidents, but he would never tolerate the way that link was used. It might be relevant in a discussion amongst those of the faith themselves, but not in a discussion covering evolution.

938 posted on 10/21/2002 11:25:01 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
As he pointed out, the link was not to cast aspersions on creos by association, but to show the imtellectual shallowness of the "guilt by association" arguments used by the creos to decry evolution. In that regard, I believe the link worked admirably.

BTW, not all Catholics act alike or think alike. We are not some monolithic group mind marching lock step. The Catholic Church has hosted individuals with as diverse ideaologies as Torquemada and St. Francis, exhibiting a range of piety from the de Medicis to John Paul II. The only difference between Catholics and Protestants with regard to this is that when we have disagreements over something we don't run off and found a new denomination.

939 posted on 10/21/2002 11:40:54 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Junior
And what's Bob Dornan got to do with the price of tea in China?

Why do you bother? We both know that the link in question was provided solely to demonstrate the weakness in the creationists' line of argumentation, by providing a counter-example of their own "guilt by association" style of propaganda -- and which was specifically labeled as such. That they don't see this is yet another demonstration of their intellectual failings. To ignore that context and to allow yourself to be dragged into a debate about the link's contents is to be diverted into wasting time on irrelevancies -- a well-developed specialty of a certain creationist.

940 posted on 10/21/2002 11:48:34 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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