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Posted on 10/14/2002 8:29:42 PM PDT by Michael2001
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PRESS: Ann Coulter, Im glad we found the one person in the country who would stand up and defend Jerry Falwell. You yourself have had some unkind things to say about, maybe not the prophet Mohammed, but maybe Muslims.
On the 12th of September last year you said-quote-We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. I asked about you and about Reverend Falwell. How can Christians be so full of hate?
ANN COULTER, COLUMNIST: Christians dont consider converting someone to Christianity and saving their soul...
PRESS: How about killing their leaders?
COULTER: Well, this is one of these quotes that really doesnt matter what the column says, even though its posted all over the Internet and you can go read it yourself. In point of fact, I was not referring to all Muslims. I was referring to the enemy.
And I havent seen as good a description of the enemy since September 11, which was when I wrote that column, which is the people cheering and dancing in the streets right now. By the end of the week, point one and point two, invade their countries, kill their leaders, have become official government policy.
But to describe, you know, changing these peoples hearts and minds as a hateful thing to do is craziness, Bill.
BUCHANAN: All right, let me ask you, Ann. Reverend Falwell uses the
term terrorist. And Franklin Graham referred to the religion as-quote
an evil and wicked religion, I believe. And I believe Pat Robertson.
Is this something of Christian fundamentalists, that they believe?
I mean, first off, I dont know that Mohammed has ever been called a terrorist. I do know he was a warrior. Do you think this is advised?
COULTER: I think its true, and not solely on the basis of what Christian theologians have said, but on the basis of two Muslims who converted to Christianity. They described the Koran and Mohammed in some detail and with some accuracy, in their book, Unveiling Islam.
And yes, Mohammed, there were his Satanic visions. Sometimes he was possessed by Satan. He married a girl when she was six years old, called her in from the swing set and had sex with her at nine years old. And, you know, with all of these endless articles being written about, why do they hate us, and gee, what motivates these people? I dont know. I think maybe we ought to all have a better look at Islam.
PRESS: But, Ann, there are people who have killed in the name of Jesus. There have been millions of people killed in the name of Jesus. Isnt the problem with Christianity or with Judaism or Islam, people who misinterpret the message of the religion and then go out and do their own evil things? Its not the leader of the religion, the founder of the religion. Its their misguided followers.
COULTER: Well, this is what people want to believe because Americans are very kindhearted and ecumenical about things. But I think a strong argument can be made that, when Christians kill in the name of Christ, they are not being good Christians.
Millions of Muslims believe that Mohammed and the Koran does command them to kill infidels in the name of their religion. And theres a lot more to it there, than there is in the case of Christianity. I mean, what does a fundamentalist Christian do, someone who really believes literally everything the New Testament says? He really goes out and turns the other cheek?
I mean, you cant find anything recommending violence or killing infidels in the New Testament. You can in the Koran.
BUCHANAN: Very quickly, Ann, do you think theres a war coming between Islam and Christendom, or the West, all out-war?
COULTER: No. But the way it is being pitched is more as a war of freedom and democracy versus a way of Islamic dictatorships. But I do think the Christian element is part of that.
PRESS: Thanks, Ann.
BUCHANAN: Thank you, Ann.
PRESS: Well be right back, BUCHANAN AND PRESS.
To: Michael2001
PRESS: Ann Coulter, Im glad we found the one person in the country who would stand up and defend Jerry Falwell. You yourself have had some unkind things to say about, maybe not the prophet Mohammed, but maybe Muslims. On the 12th of September last year you said-quote-We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. I asked about you and about Reverend Falwell. How can Christians be so full of hate?
ANN COULTER, COLUMNIST: Christians dont consider converting someone to Christianity and saving their soul...
PRESS: How about killing their leaders?
COULTER: Well, this is one of these quotes that really doesnt matter what the column says, even though its posted all over the Internet and you can go read it yourself. In point of fact, I was not referring to all Muslims. I was referring to the enemy. And I havent seen as good a description of the enemy since September 11, which was when I wrote that column, which is the people cheering and dancing in the streets right now. By the end of the week, point one and point two, invade their countries, kill their leaders, have become official government policy. But to describe, you know, changing these peoples hearts and minds as a hateful thing to do is craziness, Bill.
BUCHANAN: All right, let me ask you, Ann. Reverend Falwell uses the term terrorist. And Franklin Graham referred to the religion as-quote an evil and wicked religion, I believe. And I believe Pat Robertson. Is this something of Christian fundamentalists, that they believe? I mean, first off, I dont know that Mohammed has ever been called a terrorist. I do know he was a warrior. Do you think this is advised?
COULTER: I think its true, and not solely on the basis of what Christian theologians have said, but on the basis of two Muslims who converted to Christianity. They described the Koran and Mohammed in some detail and with some accuracy, in their book, Unveiling Islam. And yes, Mohammed, there were his Satanic visions. Sometimes he was possessed by Satan. He married a girl when she was six years old, called her in from the swing set and had sex with her at nine years old. And, you know, with all of these endless articles being written about, why do they hate us, and gee, what motivates these people? I dont know. I think maybe we ought to all have a better look at Islam.
PRESS: But, Ann, there are people who have killed in the name of Jesus. There have been millions of people killed in the name of Jesus. Isnt the problem with Christianity or with Judaism or Islam, people who misinterpret the message of the religion and then go out and do their own evil things? Its not the leader of the religion, the founder of the religion. Its their misguided followers.
COULTER: Well, this is what people want to believe because Americans are very kindhearted and ecumenical about things. But I think a strong argument can be made that, when Christians kill in the name of Christ, they are not being good Christians. Millions of Muslims believe that Mohammed and the Koran does command them to kill infidels in the name of their religion. And theres a lot more to it there, than there is in the case of Christianity. I mean, what does a fundamentalist Christian do, someone who really believes literally everything the New Testament says? He really goes out and turns the other cheek? I mean, you cant find anything recommending violence or killing infidels in the New Testament. You can in the Koran.
BUCHANAN: Very quickly, Ann, do you think theres a war coming between Islam and Christendom, or the West, all out-war?
COULTER: No. But the way it is being pitched is more as a war of freedom and democracy versus a way of Islamic dictatorships. But I do think the Christian element is part of that.
PRESS: Thanks, Ann.
BUCHANAN: Thank you, Ann.
PRESS: Well be right back, BUCHANAN AND PRESS.
Michael2001, formatting is our friend.
To: Michael2001
Excuuuuse Me!!!!!
To: Michael2001
Thanks for the reformatting.
An important distinction between Jesus of Nazareth and Muhammed needs to be made: Jesus never commanded his followers to kill anyone. Muhammed did, plain and simple. Vast difference.
That one distinction alone moves Muhammed from the path of God to the path of Satan.
I would also be remiss at this point not to call to everyone's attention to the sign that Jesus asked others to heed: Jesus died, was buried, and in 3 days rose again. Muhammed was not a sacrifice for sin, Jesus was. As long as I am on a roll... Jesus died for Muhammed's sins, too.
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posted on
10/14/2002 8:49:36 PM PDT
by
Bosco
To: Michael2001
bump
To: Michael2001
http://www.mondaytimes.com.mv/issue72/religious72.htm
"the right-wing Episcopalian Coulter, who resembles a fashion model, is now dating a Muslim businessman in New York."
To: Michael2001
This woman is making entirely too much sense.
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posted on
10/14/2002 9:37:01 PM PDT
by
Dan Day
To: JeepInMazar
Are you an Islamist?
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posted on
10/14/2002 9:51:12 PM PDT
by
onedoug
To: JeepInMazar
Was dating. They broke up is what I read a month ago or so.
To: Bosco
Jesus died for Muhammed's sins, too Unless 'Muhammed' repented, and threw himself down at God's mercy - 'believing on' Lord Jesus as his saviour - Muhammed died in his sins. We don't wish this on anyone:
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
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posted on
10/14/2002 9:55:35 PM PDT
by
El Cid
To: Bosco
One other thing, Jesus stood for and that was seperation of church & state. You know give unto Ceaser.......
Christianity is unique in that regard, and that is what resulted in western civilization as we know it.
To: onedoug
What do you mean?
To: big ern
Thanks for the update on that. It was new information to me just today.
To: UnBlinkingEye
PRESS: But, Ann, there are people who have killed in the name of Jesus. There have been millions of people killed in the name of Jesus. Isnt the problem with Christianity or with Judaism or Islam, people who misinterpret the message of the religion and then go out and do their own evil things? Its not the leader of the religion, the founder of the religion. Its their misguided followers.
Looks like we could all just go Communist, for all this guy cares.
Who are these "millions of people killed in the name of Jesus"?
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posted on
10/15/2002 12:39:52 AM PDT
by
shekkian
To: shekkian
Ann's right. I guess the towelheads in Iran will finally get around to issuing a fatwa against her cause she wants to convert them to Christianity and is defending Fallwell and Robertson. That's one gutsy girl facing Bill Press there. Go Ann, go!!! :)
To: Michael2001
I have read other places that the girl was age 9 and 12 rather than 6 and 9. Anybody have sources? And does it really matter?
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posted on
10/15/2002 5:14:37 AM PDT
by
js1138
To: UnBlinkingEye
I'll tell you one thing she's right about, it may not be a religious war for us, but clearly it is for our enemies. And if we treat it as anything else, I have to wonder if we're just kidding ourselves.
Islam is not the same as Christianity or Judaism. In Christianity or Judaism, a peaceful solution is the favored method of solving anything. In Islam, death to the infidel is the ideal solution. (not converting him, or getting him to surrender the west bank and Gaza under UN guidelines, but DEATH)
I'm of the opinion that we should not wait until our enemies nuke a major western city for Allah's glory.
If they want Jihad, we should give it to them.
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posted on
10/15/2002 5:17:45 AM PDT
by
tcostell
To: Bosco
Jesus and Mohammed cannot be compared. Jesus was God. Mohammed was a prophet. Of someone.
To: js1138
For a long time, the marriage age in Iran was 9. Coincidence? I think not.
In private. Muslims believe and document her as 9. In public, she was a young teen.
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