[ApesForEvolution]

To leverage a deal to get us out of S Korea and scare the poop out of Japan...who is threatening militarization and a nuclear weapons program. You can be sure that BIG brother in Beijing is behind this. Remember Beijing, who formed a new military alliance with our buddies in Moscow not long ago, the ones trying to dictate NATO's new membership drives and is rumored to be a possible inclusion sometime soon? This whole New Order of the World is happening and I believe one day we will wake up resembling the old boiled frog story. IMHO.

[Kaisersrsic]

I hope that you are wrong about a direct Chicom connection. The North Koreans may just turn out to be a bigger problem for the Chicoms than for us. The bottom line is that nuclear proliferation does not benefit any existing nuclear power. And, the North Koreans are crazy --I would rather be their enemy with an ocean buffer than their neighbor.

[Mo1]

Yes I am aware of all that which is why come out in the open with news we already knew

As for the new world order thingy .. they may want it but it ain't gonna happen and as for Russia .. not that I trust them .. but they trust China even less