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IPOL TO USE HIGH TECH TO DETECT AND PREVENT VOTER FRAUD
E-mailed Press Release | 10-19-2002 | 1st Freedom

Posted on 10/19/2002 6:37:58 PM PDT by 1stFreedom

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21 posted on 10/20/2002 2:18:41 AM PDT by Mia T
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SENATORS FOR VOTE FRAUD

By ARNOLD ALHERT

October 19, 2002 -- IT'S more than a little ironic. On the same day it was announced that Saddam Hussein has been "unanimously" re-elected, the only two senators preventing a unanimous vote in the Senate on the election-reform bill were New York's own Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton.

Why? "This would make it more difficult to vote in New York. It's designed to suppress minority voting participation," said Sen. Clinton.

The "this" Sen. Clinton is referring to is the new anti-fraud provisions in the bill. They require that every person wanting to vote show a driver's license, Social Security number or other approved ID in order to cast a ballot.

Clinton and Schumer preferred a system where a potential voter merely had to sign his or her name.

So who is it exactly that this bill is "suppressing"? U.S. citizens have all the requisite ID - no matter what their ethnicity. Could it be that Clinton and Schumer are "sensitive" to some of the leftist fringe groups in this country who are clamoring for the right of illegal aliens to vote?

It is no secret that New York is home to thousands of undocumented "residents" - who would vote overwhelmingly Democratic if they could just get past these darn ID requirements.

New York's dynamic duo have a lot more 'splainin' to do on this one.

E-mail: ahlert@mindspring.com

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22 posted on 10/20/2002 2:20:07 AM PDT by Mia T
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To: 1stFreedom
This is a joke. No way this group can delver on this. Of course, they really do not have to deliver, they merely have to convince people they will deliver.
23 posted on 10/20/2002 7:57:17 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush
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To: Tennessean4Bush
This is no joke. We are in the age of technology where this is possible. (The use of facial recognition software at the SuperBowl as a good example). It's scary. The real question is, how good is the software? How can it be fooled?
24 posted on 10/20/2002 8:55:20 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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25 posted on 10/20/2002 9:08:30 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: 1stFreedom
~~~Some people here on FR added comments in support of the previous release~~~

Can you explain more please?
26 posted on 10/20/2002 9:15:03 PM PDT by justshe
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To: justshe
Oh, people were saying things like "Yea, the comm ports and rs232 network is up and running." I think they were poking fun at it, or trying to add support to it.
27 posted on 10/20/2002 10:02:55 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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To: mvpel
You write, "It's slow, but it doesn't have to be warp speed to send over facial map data."
Excuse me, but do you hear yourself? Speed isn't an issue when you are trying to identify god knows how many people entering a polling place? That is tons of information required at a rate that you have no control over.
It doesn't matter though as the software just doesn't work under these haphazard circumstances.
28 posted on 10/21/2002 11:39:44 AM PDT by thegreatbeast
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To: 1stFreedom
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29 posted on 10/21/2002 12:12:43 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: thegreatbeast
The speed of a network link is not a factor in the processing algorithm, the CPU is, and I was talking about the speed of CDPD cellular modems. Presumably, each laptop is capturing the images and generating the face maps locally, and sending the resulting digested and compressed data up over the 9600-14,400bps CDPD link to the central location where it is stored in a database of all polling places and voters.

The facial comparasons against the rest of the database are presumably then done by the central computer, not by the laptop. If there's a hit, the laptop operator is presumably notified with the details.

There's a window of five minutes or so during which a person would be in the polling place, or longer if the line is long, during which the comparison can be done, a double-voter identified, and subsequently apprehended.
30 posted on 10/21/2002 12:14:42 PM PDT by mvpel
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I appreciate your efforts on the behalf of wireless technology etc but SHOW me it works and then I'll believe it.
31 posted on 10/21/2002 3:15:52 PM PDT by thegreatbeast
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To: 1stFreedom
Please post a link for this. If they have email press releases, they have a website.
32 posted on 10/21/2002 3:18:52 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: thegreatbeast
It's a shame that Ricochet went under - they had a microcell-based technology that offered 128 kilobit mean data throughput rates, usable up to 70mph.
33 posted on 10/21/2002 4:27:07 PM PDT by mvpel
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About the Technology
CDPD became a networking standard in the early 1990s, when a consortium of cellular carriers across the United States came together for the purpose of creating a method for sending data over cellular telephone channels. They wanted to provide a cost-effective, reliable and flexible solution to providing two-way wireless data communications service for mobile professionals. [...]

34 posted on 10/21/2002 4:30:08 PM PDT by mvpel
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In an effort to stay out of court before and during the elections, there is no public contact data available. IPOL is a private, unincorporated organization. Although press releases are sent,and the president of the group has been named, the group is purposefully laying low..

There essentially is no public information available. If there were, Democrats would be in court asking for injunctions, restraining orders, and the likes. Can't serve someone with an injunction if you don't know whom to serve, can you?

Now, I assume that after the election the group will be in court once their identies have been revealed (via citizens arrests, etc.)

I get this information to pass on since my bro in law is doing some freelance database work for1 them. He doesn't know their identities, nor do I. Taking us to court won't do a think, cause we don't know anything!
35 posted on 10/21/2002 5:39:40 PM PDT by 1stFreedom
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." We just need a few people with phot graphic memories stationed at the most likley poling areas.

How about just standing there with a camcorder aimed at the door? Maybe, even without film - but the bad guys wouldn't have to know that.

36 posted on 10/21/2002 5:54:44 PM PDT by Exit148
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Just dawned on me that perhaps I haven't spoken as clearly as I might wish to. Sure, wireless technology works. You might even have reliable face recognition software that doesn't gobble up bandwidth and resources. But getting both to work in harmony on the fly as described in this posting? Nah,...not for a long ways off.
37 posted on 10/21/2002 8:34:25 PM PDT by thegreatbeast
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The key is that you just have to do your crunching in the right place.

I've worked with pattern-recognition software, in particular that by Excalibur Technologies, as well as fingerprint recognition software, and it really does work. And that was getting on towards 5-7 years ago. They may not be using Excalibur's neural-net algorithms, but there are other approaches that work too.

Fingerprint recognition algorithms don't compare the prints bit-for-bit - they build algorithmic maps of the fingerprint image, summarizing the print in several different points corresponding to key features, like loops, arches, and whorls. The same approach is commonly used in facial recognition software. This serves to condense an image that may be thousands of bits in size down to a concise summary that can be quickly and efficiently compared for near matches and solid hits, and quickly and efficiently transmitted over limited-bandwidth links.

Since every one of the potential hits will be on the same day, there's no concern about aging, facial hair, etc, which simplifies the problem significantly.

Here's the steps, as I would construct them:

1. Your high-speed laptop, with a video-in port, monitors the incoming video stream and locates and maps faces of individuals entering the polling place by taking a snap every few seconds. The software to do this kind of video and/or image processing is established and while relatively cutting-edge, is available and well-understood.

2. You store a local copy of each face image, and its corresponding map summary, under a unique identifier tagged with the laptop's name and a sequential number. You transmit the map summary and the ID number over the wireless link to the central database.

3. The central database receives the map and ID data, and stores it along with all the other map and ID data from the other polling stations. Each incoming map is compared with all the other stored maps.

4. If the central computer finds a close match or a hit on a particular face-map summary, it sends a request back to the laptop that had the first submission of the map, based on its ID number, and uploads the actual video image of the face in question, then transmits that full image down to the laptop that just sent in the matching face-map summary.

5. A little bell goes "ding" on the laptop that sent in the most recent image, and the operator compares the two images - the one just taken on the local laptop, and the one just downloaded from the central computer.

6. If there's a match to the human eye, the operator clicks the "print" button, and a color printer spits out a page that is then handed to one of the assistants at the polling place, who then goes to make a citizens arrest of the culprit and calls the police.

This approach deals with the limited bandwitdh of the CDPD network by sending only the summarized, compressed face map data up, and not sending the full image data until actual vote fraud is suspected.

You seriously underestimate the ingenuity of the avearage software engineer, my friend.

PS - I'm not involved in the project, this is just the first gloss approach I'd take if I were.
38 posted on 10/21/2002 9:40:36 PM PDT by mvpel
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To: 07055

Thanks for keeping this up. The truth will overcome the Democrats.


39 posted on 11/02/2004 6:37:45 AM PST by discipler
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