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ANTI-WAR MARCH - Man flies 3,000 miles to make important point [Major puke alert]
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 10/20/02 | Wm. W. Rose

Posted on 10/20/2002 7:03:48 PM PDT by ppaul

I am flying to Washington, D.C., to join the anti-war march on Oct. 26. This is a considerable commitment of time, money and energy. Why am I doing it?

In April 1971, when I was an impulsive, long-haired pacifist of 16, I joined my sister in the Moratorium March on Washington against the Vietnam War with 200,000 others. My youthful idealism was reinforced and sustained as the force of public opinion turned the wheel of history, and the Vietnam war machine ground to a halt.

Some of my idealism has survived the ensuing decades. At the same time, I consider myself fairly well informed about the politics and government of our era, and I am deeply distrustful of the current administration.

A recent article, "The Push for War" by Anatol Lieven in the London Review of Books, lays bare a convincing and deeply disturbing picture of the goals of the Bush administration. The hawks and wolves in the president's shadow envision a world dominated by U.S. military might, where corporate interests, the oil industry in particular, can operate unchallenged anywhere in the world. Implicit in this new doctrine is that when opposition to U.S. policy anywhere in the world is made impossible, opposition at home will be no less so.

The dots in my own mind are connecting, and I am convinced that it is time for Americans again to blow the whistle on the government. Our freedoms not only entitle but obligate us to resist illegal and immoral actions by our government in our name.

Millions of Americans long for a nation that uses its ingenuity, wealth and generosity to help eradicate hunger, disease, inequity and the intractable ravages of violence and reprisal. But the wheels of the military-industrial-energy complex, so deeply embedded in our economy and in the current administration, grind forward, and it will take a lot of bodies in the streets to bring them to a halt.

It can be done; we must insist upon it. Like the rash teenager that I was, America must move beyond adolescence and learn to use its idealism and strength peacefully and humbly among civilized nations to create a secure world.

William W. Rose
Seattle

Link to editorial page HERE.



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What this self-righteous, traitorous scum overlooks is how the actions of his ilk cost millions of Cambodians and Southeast Asians their lives - not to mention our own troops.

So he's going to Washington DC is he? A good reason to be there in numbers to FReep these anti-American louses.

Wouldn't be a bad idea to flood the newspaper with Letters to the Editor in response to this anal orifice's diatribe, eh?


1 posted on 10/20/2002 7:03:49 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
I've been to 30, 35, 40th reunions. Conclusions: the a-holes then are the a-holes now.
2 posted on 10/20/2002 7:07:29 PM PDT by GopherIt
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To: ppaul; Orual; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; tet68; Long Cut
My youthful idealism . . .

Bzzzzzzzzzzt!

You didn't want your youthful ass drafted, shipped to Vietnam, and shot.

3 posted on 10/20/2002 7:14:34 PM PDT by dighton
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To: ppaul
The hawks and wolves in the president's shadow envision a world dominated by U.S. military might, where corporate interests, the oil industry in particular, can operate unchallenged anywhere in the world.

It is really amazing how stupid these people are. They simply can't imagine a world where oil money is not the motive behind everthing. Because oil exists in a lot of shithole places, it is natural that the oil companies have a good understanding of what goes on in them. But I think these liberal really do picture Bush sitting around with oil executives plotting world domination.

4 posted on 10/20/2002 7:14:36 PM PDT by Rodney King
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To: dighton
In April 1971, when I was an impulsive, long-haired pacifist of 16,

In April of 1971 he was a long-haired pu**y, just like his hero Slick was a long-haired pu**y in 1969. Their hair may be shorter today but they're both still pu**ies.

5 posted on 10/20/2002 7:29:05 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: ppaul
In April 1971, when I was an impulsive, long-haired pacifist of 16, I joined my sister in the Moratorium March on Washington against the Vietnam War with 200,000 others.

"I am now an impulsive, long-haired pacifist of 61. My sister is dead of AIDS, and there are no more than a dozen losers at this March. But I sure would like to relive my glory days. Man the chicks dug that counter-culture crap!"

6 posted on 10/20/2002 7:33:32 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Their hair may be shorter today but they're both still pu**ies.

Puppies?

7 posted on 10/20/2002 7:34:55 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
Can't expect much from most Se-@$$holes!

My brother at Cu-Chi ( Feb. 1966)


8 posted on 10/20/2002 7:40:29 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: rockfish59
bump
9 posted on 10/20/2002 8:27:28 PM PDT by Lokibob
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To: dighton
And that's all it was. Now, years later, instead of simply facing that irrefutable fact, he would see his country and his people destroyed to rationalize it.

The selfish laziness and arrogance of these people is stunning. They are beneath contempt.

Notice, not one word mentioned about Black Tuesday, 3,000 victims, unprovoked attacks on civilians, terrs...

It's as if these pigs never noticed the precipitating events...just the aftermath.


10 posted on 10/20/2002 8:28:38 PM PDT by Long Cut
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To: dighton; Orual; general_re; ppaul; BlueLancer; Poohbah
You didn't want your youthful ass drafted, shipped to Vietnam, and shot.

Some of us noticed that when Nixon stopped the draft the "anti-war" demonstrations also stopped even though the war was still on.

11 posted on 10/20/2002 8:44:39 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: ppaul
My youthful idealism was reinforced and sustained as the force of public opinion turned the wheel of history, and the Vietnam war machine ground to a halt.

What arrogant nonsense. The fact is, public opinion had been against the Vietnam War for sometime (thanks to a media that portrayed our fighting men as animals). When Richard Nixon was elected, he promised to bring our men home. Unfortunately, he decided to make a small detour to Cambodia before he got around to doing that. It was this action that set in motion a series of events that climaxed in the wholesale slaughter of innocent people by members of their own government (Kent State). The events of May 4, 1970 were, indeed, the true turning point that ultimately brought an end to our involvement in the Vietnam War.

12 posted on 10/20/2002 9:18:03 PM PDT by Houmatt
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To: ppaul
Ah yes, the old "no blood for oil" cliche. Excuse me, but didn't this "gentleman" fly 3000 miles to D.C. to feel good about himself? Don't planes need fuel to fly? Do they make jet fuel from corn or tofu or carrots?

What would any of these people fight for? Food? Freedom? To keep their families and loved ones from being killed? Anything?

No oil=no computers, no CD's, DVD's, auto's, buses, trains, food deliveries, heating oil, gas for cooking. And on and on and on. Where do they think energy comes from? Of course they don't want any waste products from energy and you know they don't want nuclear energy. Maybe we could all live in caves and eat dirt.

13 posted on 10/20/2002 9:28:35 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: ppaul
I think it's more like "puddy cats". Or is it chickens*it.
14 posted on 10/20/2002 9:31:12 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: ppaul
I am flying to Washington, D.C., to join the anti-war march on Oct. 26. This is a considerable commitment of time, money and energy. Why am I doing it?

Probably because he is rich enough to do so, and has the leisure to take off.

PJ O'Rourke was once asked why conservatives didn't demonstrate like the left. He answered it was because they worked for a living.

15 posted on 10/21/2002 3:17:47 AM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: Houmatt
Nope. The thing that brought an end to our just cause in Vietnam to protect South-East Asia formdemocidal communists was topped by misreporting by the emdia for political reasons and Nixon and Kissinger's own "de'ente" crap.

The fact is we started and continually did pull out troops in 69'. We started the Vietnamazation process in 69' too to replace us when we finally left. We left entirely in 73'.

The Cambodia invaison was long overdue. The Commies ahd prepared something called Tet 68', Tet 69', Tet 70'. 3 major offensives launched each year. In 1970 we invaded Cambodia,most of the troops were ARVN. We ran 20km into Cambodia then ran out,all because of leftist political pressure coming from the campus, media, and Democratic party. We cleared out 20km of their sancuarary, that Sihanouak made possible and that Lon Nol tried to stop.

Even during the offensive we were pulling out! Just that the ARVN was strating more and more to runt he show. In 73' in fact we had no divisional forces in Vietnam only 20,000 advisors and around 1,000+ air-craft.

The Kent State massacre was an isolated incident involving trigger happy National Guardsmen. But if we stayed and cleared out allthe Communist forces, 2-3 million could have been saved form Pol Pot's murderous tyranny, which we tried to stopby bombing only because the political pressure was so immense we were not allowed to invade Cambodia again.

Don't bring up the Hayden 68' DNC riot. Hayden and his gang of SDS terrorists incited that damn thing. The police ahd eveyr rightto bash their heads in.

"I want the Black Panthers to become America's Viet Cong..."-Hayden
16 posted on 10/22/2002 7:26:47 AM PDT by Ridgeway
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To: Ridgeway
While we could debate what brought an end to our involvement into the Vietnam War, I am sure you would agree that while the cause may have been just, our own government who sent our boys out there did not want them to win, and so they had their a$$es handed to them.
17 posted on 10/22/2002 8:04:18 AM PDT by Houmatt
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