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1 posted on 10/20/2002 10:16:33 PM PDT by USA21
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Posted on Sun, Oct. 20, 2002

Rights Foundation gives 2002 award to Hillary Clinton

BY JENNIFER MALONEY jmaloney@herald.com

U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, one of Congress' staunchest supporters of gay rights, was honored Saturday night with the Dade Human Rights Foundation's 2002 National Impact Award.

About 1,400 people paid $175 a plate at the Westin Diplomat Resort and Spa in Hollywood to see the junior Democratic senator from New York and former first lady get her award.

''One of the pieces of unfinished business in this country is that we eliminate all vestiges of discrimination and bias and be sure that the laws fully protect all of us,'' she said.

The 8-year-old foundation, an umbrella group for local gay-rights organizations, recognized Clinton for various stands she has taken, including her support of extending benefits for Sept. 11 victims to gay partners and her cosponsorship of a bill that would prohibit discrimination in the workplace based on sexual orientation. The bill has yet to gain enough backing to pass Congress.

''We have a long way to go . . . but we are making progress,'' she said.

Said MarkyG, a host on Miami techno-pop radio station Party 93.1: ``It's wonderful to have a role model, someone we can take pride in who supports us and who doesn't make you feel like second-class citizens. Hillary makes you feel just like everyone else.''

Also praising Clinton: Janet Reno, the former U.S. attorney general and gubernatorial candidate who attended the dinner and drew some of the crowd's loudest applause.

''She speaks volumes for Americans fighting against discrimination,'' Reno said.

Clinton thanked the crowd for helping defeat a Sept. 10 Miami-Dade initiative to repeal the county's gay-rights amendment that prohibits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. Voters elected to keep the amendment.

The foundation -- which announced it's changing its name to the Gay and Lesbian Foundation of South Florida -- gave its Humanitarian Award on Saturday to Lee Brian Schrager, director of media and special events for Southern Wine and Spirits of America, the country's largest distributor of alcoholic and nonalcoholic beverages.

Southern Wine and Spirits has made donations to several South Florida gay and AIDS-related charities and was a major sponsor of the 2002 Miami Gay and Lesbian Film Festival. The award was sponsored by The Herald.

Former winners of the National Impact Award include House Democratic Leader Richard Gephardt and Miami's Billy Bean, a retired major-league baseball player who made national news by revealing he is gay.

2 posted on 10/20/2002 10:20:40 PM PDT by USA21
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To: USA21
Political correctness in the guise of "diversity" and "tolerance" will be the smoking gun that kills any virtue connected with honorable traditional values.
4 posted on 10/20/2002 10:31:00 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: USA21; wwjdn
Free Speech is dead in Sweden; it is dying in Canada. Trust Senator Clinton to wage war on it here.

Well, while I can then, I will speak the truth:

It is not OK to be gay. Quite the opposite; the gay lifestyle is morally abhorrent, destructive to health, and destructive to society.

God Bless America and the First Amendment.

5 posted on 10/20/2002 10:32:02 PM PDT by Z in Oregon
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"Is America Next?"

Depends on how much power Americans give to the ACLU and the judicial system

6 posted on 10/20/2002 10:37:44 PM PDT by Cindy
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"The argument of separating the person from the behavior is their concept," insisted Kim Vance, president of Ottawa-based EGALE, Equality for Gays and Lesbians Everywhere.

"In reality they are the same thing,"

Of course....

"Hi, I'm Bob and I'm anal sex." "Uh....."

12 posted on 10/20/2002 10:54:23 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: USA21
he neo-Dark Ages
13 posted on 10/20/2002 10:57:59 PM PDT by polemikos
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To: USA21
Let's hang onto our guns, boys and girls. It looks like we're gonna need them.
18 posted on 10/20/2002 11:28:03 PM PDT by Hemlock
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A self-described homosexual member of the House of Commons,
Svend Robinson,
is expected this week to reintroduce bill C-415,
which would add sexual orientation as a protected category
in Canada's genocide and hate crimes legislation.

It should be noted,
Svend Robinson is a strong supporter of Arafat,
whom he has visited many times at government expense.

20 posted on 10/20/2002 11:36:30 PM PDT by Nogbad
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"There's a huge difference between someone being allowed to practice their religion and taking out ads in the newspaper saying that gay and lesbian people are sick and immoral," said EGALE's Vance. "There is a line there, and it's been crossed."

Wow. I'm glad I don't live there.
22 posted on 10/20/2002 11:59:52 PM PDT by SicTransitGloriaMundi
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And the Koran is not hate literature???
23 posted on 10/21/2002 12:07:41 AM PDT by weegee
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In his letter to constituents, Robinson defends the necessity of the bill by using the example of American Fred Phelps, known for his website "www.godhatesfags.com." Robinson said that when Phelps wanted to come to Canada to "pursue his campaign of hatred against gay and lesbian people," Canadian police lamented that there was nothing in the criminal code to stop him.

Fred Phelps, despite his never-ending hate talk, continues to aid the cause of the Gay-stapo immeasurably. It just never ends.

Even though he and his miniscule congregation have no influence whatsoever, that jackass and his "church" members are a weeping cancerous lesion on the American religious and political scenes.

Rushfeldt also recalled instances in which the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council rules have been used to censure programs addressing homosexuality. In 1997, the council ruled that the airing of a James Dobson "Focus on the Family" program, called "Homosexuality: Fact and Fiction," violated the requirement that opinion, comment, and editorializing be presented in a way that is "full, fair, and proper."

The rules are "so vague," said Rushfeldt, "that if somebody says something that hurts feelings it can be considered a violation of the broadcast standards."

That's not quite true. There was a complaint filed against Bill Maher for comments about Jesus Christ and/or God and Catholics and/or Christians that were broadcast on a Canadian comedy channel. That was OK with them.

Anyone who read the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council censure of Dr. Laura Schlessinger for her comments about radical gay activists knows how mushy the Canucks are about thorny issues of incorrect speech.

From the decision, filed February 2, 2000, but strategically released to damage her upcoming TV show (bold mine; the multiple italized words are theirs):


The host’s perspective is clear and unambiguous. Whether the terms she uses are "abnormal", "aberrant", "dysfunctional", "disordered", "deviant", "an error" or the like, her terminology is clearly pejorative. She is unhesitatingly critical, negative and unambiguous and her words are as critical and unrelenting as she can make them. In the end, she is utterly rigid about a fundamental issue which goes to the nature, the essence of gays and lesbians. It is the view of the Councils that the host’s argument that she can "surgically" separate the individual persons from their inherent characteristics so as to entitle her to make comments about the sexuality which have no effect on the person is fatuous and unsustainable. As the [Canadian] Supreme Court has said, where an identifiable group of persons is "defined by an innate or unchangeable characteristic", it will be protected by the human rights provision of the broadcasters’ Code of Ethics in Canada just as all Canadians are protected by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The sexual practices of gays and lesbians are as much a part of their being as the colour of one’s skin or the gender, religion, age or ethnicity of an individual. To use such brutal language as she does about such an essential characteristic flies in the face of Canadian provisions relating to human rights.

Whether or not Americans are so protected in their country is a non-issue for the CBSC. Gays and lesbians are so protected in this country. Whether it is or is not the case in the United States, gays and lesbians constitute a group benefiting from overwhelming judicial and legislative acknowledgment of gay and lesbian rights, not to mention popular support, under the human rights provisions in this country. The words of Supreme Court Justice La Forest cited in the previous paragraph from his opinion in Egan v. Canada [1995] 2 S.C.R. 513 were applied by him in the context of a decision on the constitutional validity of a statute challenged as being in breach of the Charter’s protection of individuals based on their sexual orientation. He also held:

I have no difficulty accepting the appellants’ contention that whether or not sexual orientation is based on biological or physiological factors, which may be a matter of some controversy, it is a deeply personal characteristic that is either unchangeable or changeable only at unacceptable personal costs. [Emphasis added.]

Since the sexual practices of gays and lesbians define them as homosexuals and are inseparable from their personas, any attempt by the host to justify her statements on the basis that she is speaking about the practices rather than the individuals must fail. In other words, the Councils have no hesitation in concluding that the statements are discriminatory vis-à-vis gays and lesbians on the basis of their sexual orientation. While there may be uses of the terms "abnormal", "aberrant", "dysfunctional", "disordered", "deviant", "an error" and so on which could, in some circumstances, be reasonable, their sheer weight in these programs and the host’s unremittingly heavy-handed and unambiguously negative characterisation of those sexual practices is abusively discriminatory and in breach of the Code.


It's no wonder Michael Moore digs Canada so much.
24 posted on 10/21/2002 12:18:55 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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HATE CRIME! Hmmm, where do I remember hearing that phrase? Ah yes, the International Criminal Court will concern itself with crimes against humanity, hate crimes. Bill Clinton signed on for us at the midnight hour, it took Bush until the ICC was ratified over a full year after he come to power to come out against the ICC. These two acts were grave mistakes. The ICC exists. Sooner or later we will be at it's mercy. And it's rulings will be tied to things that our leadership will not want to mess with. We will live by it's edicts.
25 posted on 10/21/2002 12:23:26 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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The argument of separating the person from the behavior is their concept," insisted Kim Vance, president of Ottawa-based EGALE, Equality for Gays and Lesbians Everywhere. "In reality they are the same thing."

How rediculous. Up is down. Black is white. Humans are just animals and animals are as important as humans.

The real "reality" is that the idea, the activity, and the person are 3 seperate things. For example, you can hate Islam, the idea, without hating Muslims. You can hate communism, the idea, without hating communists. You can hate the act of homosexuality without hating gays.

What should be prohibited is acting on that hate. I think that this prohibition already exists since assault, arson, vandalism, murder and incitement are already against the law. What the gay unions want is to prohibit the freedom of expression and the freedom to conceive and express ideas. That is deplorable.

27 posted on 10/21/2002 12:38:24 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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. . .someone being allowed to practice their religion. . .

They way people word statements certainly does reflect their core beliefs: government occured first and made people to govern. There appears to be more than one flaw in that concept.

29 posted on 10/21/2002 1:08:15 AM PDT by William Terrell
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The absolute worst thing you can do to a practicing homosexual is remind them that they are trapped in a web of perversion.


31 posted on 10/21/2002 2:01:51 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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"There is a line there, and it's been crossed." quote from Kim Vance, president of Ottawa-based EGALE, Equality for Gays and Lesbians Everywhere

the very words which may come back to her from God on judgment day.

37 posted on 10/21/2002 4:00:36 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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Yesterday you posted unsupported Breaking News headlines that a UN Army was being constructed. Today, it's outlawing the Bible in the US.
38 posted on 10/21/2002 4:10:50 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: USA21

 

Bible Quotes

"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones,
and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him.
But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourselves."
..........Numbers 31:17 (Moses)



40 posted on 10/21/2002 4:12:03 AM PDT by Deep_6
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Matthew 8:28-32.......Mark 5:1-13.........Luke 8:26-33.........
41 posted on 10/21/2002 4:16:59 AM PDT by maestro
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"the law addressed by Robinson's amendment spells out three different types of actions or speech considered criminal,............"

That says EVERYTHING!!!!!!

When speech is outlawed, only outlaws will be able to speak.

43 posted on 10/21/2002 4:37:00 AM PDT by You Gotta Be Kidding Me
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