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Coop I must say, I admire your optomism, but this one's not looking good (its not so bad - I didn't think we were going to win anyway - had Torch stayed in Forrester would have).

Granted some things Forrester couldn't control - the Ct. decision, Lautenberg not debating, the fact that he's in a Dem state that was a longshot to begin with - and worst of all a state that cares nothing about lawlessness.

The only hope here is that Forrester's campaign does a complete 180 and "introduces" himself in the next 2 weeks. I know you've been saying "he is talking about issue". Not really. When Torch was running he rightfully campaigned, as one poster said, as a "one trick pony". Well, that pony needs to get the whip taken to it, because he's behind coming down to the stretch - against a horse that was put out to pasture and thought shot dead for dog food years ago.

Coop I must say, I admire your optomism,

Yeah, so many seem to accuse me of being an optimist because I don't sit in the corner throwing ashes over my head, muttering "Woe is me."

I'm not an optimist here. I'm worried about the Dems winning NJ. But I look at the numbers (which is what I always look at), and Lautenberg not only is NOT a lock, he's not in good shape at all for a virtual incumbent. Can Laut win? Of course. Is it a given? Not by a long shot.

It's not you seeing the glass half empty, and me seeing it half full. I see a glass of water, and you see a glass of urine.

The only hope here is that Forrester's campaign does a complete 180 and "introduces" himself in the next 2 weeks. I know you've been saying "he is talking about issue". Not really.

And you're basing this comment on what? Visiting Forrester's website and seeing his ads, press releases, issues, etc.? Doubtful. Most likely you're saying this because everyone else around here says it.