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To: ksen
Since you all have made up your minds on this, I'll quit talking and pray for you.

Oh, come on now. What do you call kneeling in prayer before a stone image and sacrificing substance to it? Veneration?

I'd be happy for you to pray for me; I need all I can get. Just don't pray to Mary; pray to God. Mary was just a tool, as are we all.

151 posted on 10/21/2002 1:24:20 PM PDT by William Terrell
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To: William Terrell; Desdemona
I think you meant to address Desdemona, not me in #151.
160 posted on 10/21/2002 1:41:41 PM PDT by ksen
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To: William Terrell
I'd be happy for you to pray for me; I need all I can get. Just don't pray to Mary; pray to God. Mary was just a tool, as are we all.

Wait a minute! So you would be "happy" if ksen or other member of FR prayed for you but you despise the prayers of Mother of God?

She found favour in eyes of God and all generation of faithful praise Her (Lk:1:48) . Better you reconsider your disrespectful attitude if you want to be counted with those generations and ask Her for the intercession. Prayers of different persons are not equal as the friends of Job learned:

Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job.

184 posted on 10/21/2002 4:14:46 PM PDT by A. Pole
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