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More gun control, please
TownHall.com ^ | 10/24/02 | Larry Elder

Posted on 10/24/2002 1:55:00 AM PDT by kattracks

Gun-control proponents, predictably, in the wake of the Beltway sniper, urge still more gun-control laws. So, as news watchers sit through another round of softball interviews with gun-control advocates, we humbly offer Second Amendment-challenged hosts some suggestions for questions:

Why does Switzerland, a country that requires a military-style rifle, plus ammunition, in every home, enjoy a very low homicide rate?

Why does Israel, a country where perhaps 10 percent of citizens possess permits to carry concealed weapons, enjoy a very low murder rate?

Why do gun-control proponents fail to mention countries with homicide rates higher than ours, including Brazil and Russia, with very restrictive gun-control laws?

Why does Washington, D.C., a district whose laws make it illegal to buy, possess, transport or acquire a handgun, experience the highest per capita murder rates in the nation?

Why does Canada, a nation of 31 million citizens, with official estimates of 7 million guns -- although other experts place the number at 25 million -- enjoy a low per capita murder rate?

Why did America, a hundred years ago, when citizens could purchase guns anonymously and with few of today's restrictions, enjoy a murder rate of 1.2 per 100,000, versus the 5.5 rate in 2000?

Why don't gun-control proponents talk about the rising murder rate in severely gun-restricted England? "The American murder rate," writes Reason magazine, "which had fluctuated by about 20 percent between 1974 and 1991, was 'in startling free-fall.' We have had nine consecutive years of sharply declining violent crime. As a result the English and American murder rates are converging. In 1981 the American rate was 8.7 times the English rate, in 1995 it was 5.7 times the English rate, and the latest study puts it at 3.5 times." According to Reason, after a few days of crime after crime, "London police are now looking to the New York City police for advice."

Why does The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence's Web site say, "The risk of homicide in the home is three times greater in households with guns"? They fail to mention that Dr. Kellermann, the expert who came up with that figure, now distances himself from it. According to The Wall Street Journal, Dr. Kellermann now says, "A gun can be used to scare away an intruder without a shot being fired," although he admits that such events weren't included in his original study. "Simply keeping a gun in the home may deter some criminals who fear confronting an armed homeowner." Kellermann also admitted, "It is possible that reverse causation accounted for some of the association we observed between gun ownership and homicide -- i.e., in a limited number of cases, people may have acquired a gun in response to a specific threat." In other words, some people obtain guns because they are more likely perpetrators, or they fear becoming victims, of violent crime.

How often do Americans use guns each year for defensive purposes, some of whom -- but for their guns -- might have been killed? Criminologist Gary Kleck estimates that 2.5 million Americans use guns for defensive purposes each year, and approximately 400,000 of them believe someone would have been dead had they not resorted to their defensive use of firearms. A government study put the figure at 1.5 million.

Why do gun control proponents fail to admit the ineffectiveness of the Brady Act? Following the 1994 Brady Act's imposition of a 5-day waiting period for the 32 states previously not subject to such waiting periods, those states should have seen a reduction in crime, compared to the other 18 "control" states. But according to The Journal of the American Medical Association, "Our analyses provide no evidence that implementation of the Brady Act was associated with a reduction in homicide rates. . . . We find no differences in homicide or firearm homicide rates to adult victims in the 32 states directly subject to the Brady Act provisions compared with the remaining control states." The study did find a decrease in gun suicides for men over 55. But the overall suicide rate remained unchanged. Men over 55 simply resorted to other means to kill themselves.

A father recently sent me the following letter: "I had to go to work unexpectedly one night due to an emergency. My 8-year-old daughter was a little worried that I would be leaving her and my wife alone. We live in a very nice and safe neighborhood but nonetheless she was concerned. I jokingly told her that no bad men would come in our house because I put out a sign that read, 'No Bad Men Allowed.' She frowned and immediately responded, 'Daddy, bad men don't do what the signs say. That's why they're bad.'"

Some things are so complicated only a child can figure them out.

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©2002 Creators Syndicate, Inc.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 10/24/2002 1:55:00 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
I've lived in Latin American countries with very restrictive gun control laws - Venezuela was one such place. The criminals had guns, the cops had guns and the wealthy "elite" had guns and bodyguards.... the law-abiding bulk of the citizens did not have guns and the murder rate in Caracas, with a population of 6 million, was greater than the total death rate in Bosnia-Herzegovina during the Balkan war.
2 posted on 10/24/2002 2:34:45 AM PDT by waxhaw
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To: kattracks
bump
3 posted on 10/24/2002 4:14:22 AM PDT by John Galt's cousin
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To: waxhaw
A few years ago, several of the houses in our neighborhood were broken into. Ours was one of them and my wife evidently came home shortly after the perp arrived (kicked-in door and muddy footprints into the bedroom, but nothing missing)causing him to beat feet. When she entered the front door and noticed the back door kicked in, she stepped out and took her gun from her purse, then made a slow circuit of the house from a distance. Finding that the perp had left, she was so mad, she fired a round into the ground. Evidently the perp was close enough in the woods to hear and understand - our neighbor got broken into and robbed twice more, but we haven't been touched.
4 posted on 10/24/2002 4:40:41 AM PDT by trebb
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To: kattracks
Why does The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence's Web site say, "The risk of homicide in the home is three times greater in households with guns"?

I think Kellerman said 43 times more likely.

5 posted on 10/24/2002 4:47:29 AM PDT by bullseye1911
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To: *bang_list
*bang_list
6 posted on 10/24/2002 5:19:00 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: kattracks
How often do Americans use guns each year for defensive purposes, some of whom -- but for their guns -- might have been killed? Criminologist Gary Kleck estimates that 2.5 million Americans use guns for defensive purposes each year, and approximately 400,000 of them believe someone would have been dead had they not resorted to their defensive use of firearms. A government study put the figure at 1.5 million.

Does anybody have a link to definite source points for the data quoted above. Not that I dis-believe it, but I would like to be able to use these statistics when "debating" some of my anti-Constitution acquaintences. But I cannot use un-sourced data.
7 posted on 10/24/2002 7:18:33 AM PDT by frossca
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To: waxhaw
When I lived in Caracas ('90 to '93) you could select, pay for and walk out of a gun store with any rifle or shotgun. Handgun purchases required a doctor's note (wink, wink) that stated you were mentally competent.
 
It was easier for me to get armed there than it is here in CA... 11 days, anyone?

8 posted on 10/24/2002 8:59:41 AM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: frossca
I think that Lott's "more guns, less crime" has all the sources and stats that you need to prove you arguments.

If I recall it correctly, he was a gun grabber who started researching to prove his case and changed sides because the research "proved" our case.

Also if you ask them, based on the stories that actually get into the press how many times people stop a crime with a gun, they will probably say about 50 times a year. It is really about 1.5 million to 2.5 million. They will be stunned!

10 posted on 10/24/2002 9:52:46 AM PDT by The UnVeiled Lady
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To: frossca
See Kleck, _Targeting Guns: Firearms and their Control_. Aldine de Gruyter; ISBN: 0202305694; (December 1997)
11 posted on 10/24/2002 9:57:04 AM PDT by Timm
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BANG!
12 posted on 10/26/2002 10:58:57 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: kattracks
In this case....as in most...the government did not enforce any of the over 1000 existing federal, state, and local gun laws already on the books which if enforced may have prevented these murders.

New gun laws have one primary purpose: To appeal to the bewildered and the uninformed so that politicians proposing them can receive votes.

Enforcing existing gun laws is dangerous and expensive and does not get votes for the pols.

13 posted on 10/26/2002 11:14:01 AM PDT by rmvh
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