Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Beltway Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary-Thurs., Oct. 24,2002
Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences | October 24, 2002 | Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences

Posted on 10/24/2002 2:38:22 AM PDT by wewillnotfail

Overnite, two men arrested while sleeping in their car at a reststop in MD. John Mohammed aka John Williams and his stepson Lee Malvo. Mohammad is thought to be the likely shooter.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: dc; maryland; religionofpeace; rop; shootings; sniper; terrorism; virginia
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-150151-200 ... 2,851-2,854 next last
Hope no one minds. I'm an early bird.
1 posted on 10/24/2002 2:38:22 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Peach; tomkat
I hope I haven't violated protacol.
2 posted on 10/24/2002 2:43:30 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
Apprehension team awaiting Federal Warrant to search the vehicle.

Weapon found in vehicle may be same as that used in the sniper murders.

Connect-the-dots began when a fingerprint on one of the notes or tarot card showed up to match a fingerprint in the Alabama murder/robbery of a liquor store a couple of months ago. Also, credit card sniper wanted the $10m credited to was matched to the victim of that same Ala murder/robbery.
3 posted on 10/24/2002 2:46:01 AM PDT by TomGuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
Wow! I went to sleep for a couple of hours & look what happens! should be an interesting day today. So much for the angry white male with "mommy issues"
4 posted on 10/24/2002 2:46:51 AM PDT by looney tune
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
Im telling Peach....LOL

Today is a good day....they caught theses two POS, thanks to an alert citizen, who looks to be a half million dollars richer.

5 posted on 10/24/2002 2:49:19 AM PDT by mystery-ak
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
Well it looks like the whiplashing may subside a bit. From the name Mohammed, we can take the likely shooter as a follower of Islam. It also seems that authorities feel he trained at a camp in Alabama, called Camp Zero, which offered combat training to a wide assortement of people, including, according to Rita Cosby on FOX, government personel. Mohammed also had either ten or fifteen years of service in the military, including sniper training.

So, there is a Islam connection to a home grown nut. Go figure... we

6 posted on 10/24/2002 2:50:20 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
no problem; tomkat was going to post thread today for me so i've freepmailed him re this thread. thx. have to leave at 8 and hoping to hear the press start to link the arrests to terrorism.
7 posted on 10/24/2002 2:52:10 AM PDT by Peach
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: mystery-ak
I "heard" her and tomcat discussing who would start the thread today and since they were voth up late last night I figured...what the hey...I'll start the coffee brewing till they get awake (grin).
8 posted on 10/24/2002 2:52:38 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Route66; Peach; Bella; Pete; areafiftyone; brigette; harpseal; Merovingian; Miss Marple; ...
Ping
9 posted on 10/24/2002 2:53:13 AM PDT by Peach
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Peach
So we have the shooter or we just have someone connected to the shooter? I haven't even finished my first cup of coffee so...
10 posted on 10/24/2002 2:54:17 AM PDT by Lobbyist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Peach
Wow..you are awake?? Oooops....

Jeeze...I must be the only Freeper who needs sleep! I zoned out during the spellbinding stump ride to the airport.

11 posted on 10/24/2002 2:54:36 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Peach
I'm still curious about the "duck in a noose" comment.
12 posted on 10/24/2002 2:54:40 AM PDT by looney tune
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
thanks - wewillnotfail! i'm brewing tea now. boy do i need it - wild and wooly night last night. thanks for starting this - geared to talk this a.m. about all the news that's fit to print. going to cruise the net.
13 posted on 10/24/2002 2:55:08 AM PDT by Peach
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Peach
Good morning, guys! Eyes popped open, and I said to myself..check FR! Always open for business around here..grins.

So it was the credit card they stole in a liquer murder/robbery that tied them in to all of this..

Then, the idiots decide to do us a favor and take a cat nap?

It just keeps getter better and better!

sw

14 posted on 10/24/2002 2:55:38 AM PDT by spectre
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Lobbyist
Cops seem pretty confident that these are the guys. They have fingerprint evidence which connects the stepson to
the credit card that the shooters asked be used to transfer the ten mil. The car they were arrested in was seen leaving
one of the murder scenes.
15 posted on 10/24/2002 2:57:21 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Lobbyist
We have fingerprints that tied the 17 year old to the murder/robbery/ credit card theft. Thumbprint.

Cool, huh.

sw

16 posted on 10/24/2002 2:58:03 AM PDT by spectre
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: spectre
I got up at 4:45 & Fox & Friends was already on. Rita Cosby is still in the same clothes she was wearing last night. I don't think she's slept at all!
17 posted on 10/24/2002 2:58:38 AM PDT by looney tune
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: spectre
Thanks for the update.
18 posted on 10/24/2002 2:59:04 AM PDT by Lobbyist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: spectre; Peach; looney tune
Morning guys!
19 posted on 10/24/2002 2:59:45 AM PDT by Dog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: spectre
Then, the idiots decide to do us a favor and take a cat nap? Isn't that unbelievable? I know that's just what I'd want to do in that situation. Yes sir, the jig is up and my picture is about to be plastered all over the country and what do I decide to do?? Take a nap of course!
20 posted on 10/24/2002 3:00:41 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: spectre
They also, (according to MSNBC) bragged on the telephone to Moose about a killing in Bama...they finally screwed up...that and not changing cars last night after a APB on the Caprice.
21 posted on 10/24/2002 3:03:08 AM PDT by mystery-ak
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
When all of this is wrapped up, someone needs to start a thread congratulating and thanking all of the hard-working worn-out law enforcement officers who have worked on this case.
22 posted on 10/24/2002 3:03:28 AM PDT by Samwise
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dog
Morning' Dog - not much sleep last night!
23 posted on 10/24/2002 3:04:08 AM PDT by looney tune
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: mystery-ak
Wasn't their a BOLO for a brown Caprice issued about three or four days ago? For some reason, that sticks in my mind.
24 posted on 10/24/2002 3:04:55 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: mystery-ak
Fox is reporting Mohammad and Malvo have anti-American feelings and have since 9/11....AQ symp's......hmm!
25 posted on 10/24/2002 3:05:32 AM PDT by Dog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: looney tune
They are like Rchard Reid it seems.....not AQ connected per say......but wannabes.
26 posted on 10/24/2002 3:06:42 AM PDT by Dog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: mystery-ak; Dog; All
Hey Dog! Morning.

Good thing they drove a car that was EASY to spot. Boy, between that car and sleeping like two little babies, these guys aren't the smartest knives in the drawer, thank the Lord.

It keeps getting better.

27 posted on 10/24/2002 3:07:16 AM PDT by spectre
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Fred Mertz; aristeides; Travis McGee
AQ wannabe's!
28 posted on 10/24/2002 3:08:11 AM PDT by Dog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
ROCKVILLE, Md. — At least two people are in police custody Thursday in what sources told Fox News could be a
major break in the Beltway Sniper case, saying they may have a key person tied to the shootings.

Police sources told Fox News that members of the sniper task force arrested John Allen Muhammad, 42, and Lee
Malvo, 17, who police had issued a lookout for Wednesday night. The two men were inside a car at a rest stop off I-70
in Federick County, Md., at 3:19 a.m., said Larry Scott, an agent for the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
Firearms.

The men were taken into custody without incident, Scott said. A motorist and an attendant at the rest stop called police
at 1 a.m. after they spotted the men inside one of the cars sought in the sniper investigation.

Police responded and took the men into custody. That car is a blue 1990 Chevrolet Caprice with New Jersey plates.

Sources told Fox News that they had received an earlier tip on Muhammad from a friend of his who said Muhammad
had described one of the shootings to them in such detail that only the shooter could have known of what he said.

Hours earlier, police issued an arrest warrant for Muhammad, saying they believed he had information about the string of
terrifying shootings that have left 10 people dead.

Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose said the man should be considered "armed and dangerous" and that
he was being sought on a federal weapons charge.

He also cautioned that the public should not assume Muhammad is involved in any of the shootings that have stricken the
Washington area since Oct. 2 that have also left three people critically wounded.

Moose identified Muhammad as a 6-foot-1, 180-pound black male who also goes by the name John Allen Williams,
and authorities released a photograph showing a clean-shaven man with closely cropped hair. He also said a juvenile
may be accompanying Muhammad.

He did not identify the juvenile, but a law enforcement source identified him as Malvo.

A law enforcement source told The (Baltimore) Sun that police found a piece of paper at the scene of the Montgomery
shooting that bore Malvo's fingerprints. Police then traced Malvo to a Tacoma house where he had been living with
Williams, the paper said.

Moose also issued another direct message to the sniper:

"Let's talk directly. We have an answer for you about your option. We are waiting for you to contact us."

"You asked us to say 'We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose.' We understand that hearing us say that is
important to you," Moose said. "Let's talk directly. We have an answer for you about your option. We are waiting for
you to contact us."

Muhammad's ex-wife, Mildred, was being questioned by the FBI Wednesday, said Adele Moses, who identified herself
as the woman's sister. She said Mildred was living with her in Clinton, Md., southeast of Washington.

The Pierce County, Wash., sheriff's office said Muhammad was once stationed at Fort Lewis — an Army post south of
Tacoma that provides some of the most intense sniper training in the military.

The FBI searched a back yard in Tacoma that they believe may be related to the probe Wednesday night.

Law enforcement sources told Fox News that search warrants related to the serial sniper case were served in various
parts of the country Wednesday evening.

The sources said these multiple warrants included some in the D.C. area and at least one search warrant was executed
in Marion, Ala.

The FBI searched a location near Marion, Ala., known as Camp Ground Zero USA — a place known to train militia
groups. FBI sources told Fox News "they are not at liberty to comment" on the investigation and cannot confirm or deny
their agents are investigating Camp Ground Zero USA.

Fox News reported Tuesday that a credit card is playing a crucial role in the investigation. Fox News has learned that
the credit card apparently was taken following a liquor store robbery in Montgomery, Ala., on Sept. 21.

In that shooting, 52-year-old Claudine Parker was shot and killed. That credit card taken during the liquor store
robbery is the same one that the serial sniper wanted officials to transfer $10 million to.

It now seems clear that the search warrants being run in Alabama are somehow connected to this leg of the
investigation. We also know that this same stolen credit card was used recently in the Washington, D.C., area.

Montgomery, Ala., Mayor Bobby Bright said federal authorities were investigating whether the fatal shooting there last
month was linked to the sniper. No one has yet been arrested after the one woman was killed and another wounded as
they walked to their cars after locking up the store.

Bright said a caller to the sniper investigation tip line apparently claimed responsibility for the sniper shootings and the
Montgomery shooting.

Moose, who is heading the sprawling investigation, expressed frustration at the failure to make contact despite the
sniper's repeated attempts through "notes, indirect messages and calls to other jurisdictions."

Then he said: "The solution remains to call us and get a private toll-free number established just for you." If that happens,
Moose said, "we can offer other means of addressing what you have asked us for."

The latest message believed to be from the killer was a letter found not far from where bus driver Conrad Johnson, 35,
was shot Tuesday, two law enforcement sources told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

The message reportedly demands $10 million — the same request sources say was made in a letter found at another
shooting site Saturday.

In Tacoma, FBI agents spent hours at a rental home, eventually carting away a tree stump from the yard and other
potential evidence in a U-Haul truck. The back yard was divided into grids by tape, and agents swept metal detectors
back and forth in a painstaking search.

The agents, acting on information from the sniper task force, were seeking evidence related to ammunition, a senior law
enforcement official in Washington said on condition of anonymity.

FBI spokeswoman Melissa Mallon said the property owner consented to the search, but she refused to say why agents
were there.

"There's no immediate danger to anyone in this neighborhood," she said.

Pfc. Chris Waters, a Fort Lewis soldier who lives across the street from the home, said he called police after hearing
gunshots in the neighborhood nearly every day in January.

"It sounded like a high-powered rifle such as an M-16," he said. "Never more than three shots at a time. Pow. Pow.
Pow."

Dean Resop, who lives a block away, said quite a few tenants had been in and out of the home.

"Makes you want to watch your neighbors closer," said Resop, who has lived in the area seven years.

FBI agents also visited Bellingham High School, 90 miles north of Seattle, on Wednesday. Mayor Mark Asmundson
told the Bellingham Herald the agents were apparently seeking information on a male teenager who once attended the
school and an older man. He said both left the area about nine months ago.
29 posted on 10/24/2002 3:08:13 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dog
Me thinks this might get interesting! All these search warrants are gonna uncover what is behind this, I hope.
30 posted on 10/24/2002 3:08:15 AM PDT by looney tune
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
FOX just said these two had sympathy for those who flew into the World Trade Center........the terrorists.

I doubt these two were acting alone.

31 posted on 10/24/2002 3:08:20 AM PDT by Guenevere
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mystery-ak
They bragged about the shooting in Bama?

LOL!

sw

32 posted on 10/24/2002 3:08:55 AM PDT by spectre
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
It will be really interesting to see if the PC press refers to these guys a Black Muslims.

Where did the info come from that Williams had sniper training?
33 posted on 10/24/2002 3:09:06 AM PDT by OldEagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: looney tune
I'm still curious about the "duck in a noose" comment.

The way I see it, these credants had a lot of time on their hands in between sniping, so they may up a little rhyme and tried to get Chief Moose to recite it - one line at a time - they were playing with him.

34 posted on 10/24/2002 3:09:56 AM PDT by fellowpatriot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
I don't know....I know there was talk about the Caprice, but never heard a BOLO was issued.
If that's the case, they were really stupid not to change cars.
35 posted on 10/24/2002 3:10:33 AM PDT by mystery-ak
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Guenevere
Morning, Gwennie! Yep, you might be right, they are looking into a Terrorist camp in Marion Alabama investigated by Scotland Yard.

Tentacles are branching out.

sw

36 posted on 10/24/2002 3:11:08 AM PDT by spectre
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
Related to Alabama Malitia Group. Very interesting. No Al-Qaeda ties but sympathizers.
37 posted on 10/24/2002 3:11:21 AM PDT by areafiftyone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
FOX says...Camp Zero was infiltrated, unbeknownst to the owners by Muslims sympathizers.
Tip from Scotland Yard led authorities to be interested in this facility.
38 posted on 10/24/2002 3:11:26 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: looney tune
Neither did I - I was too excited about them finally getting a break in this case that I couldn't sleep!
39 posted on 10/24/2002 3:11:45 AM PDT by fellowpatriot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

"Both were sympathic toward the Terrorist attacks against the U.S."

B#sturds.

sw

40 posted on 10/24/2002 3:13:45 AM PDT by spectre
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: OldEagle
I read it on one of the thread overnite. I guess I should
have qualified it as unconfirmed. Sorry. The statement was
that he got the training at Fort Lewis, near Tacoma.
41 posted on 10/24/2002 3:14:33 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: fellowpatriot

I'll take my duck extra crispy, please


42 posted on 10/24/2002 3:14:50 AM PDT by CPL BAUM
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: fellowpatriot
2 from state arrested in D.C. sniper case

Interesting article from the Seattle Times.

43 posted on 10/24/2002 3:15:43 AM PDT by areafiftyone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
Fox is reporting Mohammad and Malvo have anti-American feelings and have since 9/11....AQ symp's......hmm!

40-something guy, teenage boy...

Are they homos?

Excuse me, islama-homos.

44 posted on 10/24/2002 3:16:07 AM PDT by DWSUWF
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DWSUWF
No, stepfather and son.
45 posted on 10/24/2002 3:17:44 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
I heard he was an engineer in the 84th ENG BN...which doesn't require sniper training...sounds like he got his *skills* in Bama at Ground Zero.
46 posted on 10/24/2002 3:18:15 AM PDT by mystery-ak
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: DWSUWF
I guess the experts will claim now that anti-American sentiment can be traced back to "mommy issues".
47 posted on 10/24/2002 3:18:21 AM PDT by Lobbyist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail; All
CNN is saying "they are NOT considered "suspects" at this time. They want to question them.

CNN is covering their posteriors...saying to us, don't get ahead of this.

sw

48 posted on 10/24/2002 3:18:57 AM PDT by spectre
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wewillnotfail
They started robbing a liquor store and that's where the credit card came from. Very interesting.
49 posted on 10/24/2002 3:19:11 AM PDT by areafiftyone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: spectre
I bet the media drop "mohammed" after one day.......then they will always use Williams.
50 posted on 10/24/2002 3:19:13 AM PDT by Tripleplay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-150151-200 ... 2,851-2,854 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson