Posted on 10/24/2002 2:31:49 PM PDT by Sabertooth
See .. you don't know all the facts .. many of us don't know all the facts ..
Don't get me wrong .. I think these two POS should be fried .. but the argument for the illegal/terrorist doesn't add up
Connections. All good journalists cultivate connections.
She's done much research on immigration for her book and articles on the topic. Journalists cultivte inside connections, in this case,, probably someone in the Seattle/Bellingham INS office who wants things to tighten up too.
What doesn't add up?
Assuming he's guilty (we can, we're not a court of law), we have a deportable Illegal who was released by a slipshod INS and went on to team up with a American Black Muslim sniper and kill a bunch of our countrymen.
If the Illegal, Lee Malvo, had been deported, that would not have happened. We might have had this sniper, but he would have needed another teammate.
I am not talking about her books that she has written .. To be honest I have not read them so I cannot give an opinion
As for journalists & connections .. this sniper cause since day one has taken so many twists and turns with reporter relaying "facts" and "inside sources" only to find out that many of them where not true
I have NO IDEA how this case will finally end .. but I am willing to wait and get all the facts ..
Michelle could be right or she could be wrong .. but it is to early to tell
"At some point the fingerpointing and the bashing needs to stop and the atmosphere needs to be one of trying to make progress and not just assigning blame," Ziglar said in a speech sponsored by the Cato Institute, a libertarian Washington think tank.Ziglar has said he would leave his volatile job by the end of the year to work in the private sector.
How about a little more bashing before you leave, Ziggy? OK with you?
I am sure he is guilty of some kind of involvement .. but what many here are claiming is that ALL illegals are terrorists
They aren't ..
Do they break the law coming here illegally .. YES .. but it doesn't make them ALL terrorist
As for this hearing and why it was delayed .. I don't have all the facts as to why this happen
Just like you can't explain to me why there was a custody dispute
As for this hearing and why it was delayed .. I don't have all the facts as to why this happenI've never seen even one such stement on FR. Please flag me when you do.
The problem is not that the hearing was delayed, it's that it was scheduled at all. Stowaways are not entitled to hearings.
From the article...
At the time of their arrest, INS records indicate, neither Malvo nor his mother had any documents proving their identities or allowing them "to be or remain in the United States legally." The Border Patrol agents concluded that because she had "no roots or close family ties in the United States, James was likely to abscond." The arresting officer noted that the mother-and-son illegal aliens, Malvo and James, would be "detained at the Seattle Detention facility in Seattle, Washington pending deportation charges."
That's not what happened. About a month after their arrest, Malvo and his mother were set free by the Seattle district INS-contrary to what the arresting Border Patrol officers had determined should be done. And in clear violation of federal law regarding the removal of illegal alien stowaways. According to the Detention and Deportation Officers' Field Manual:
"Occasionally, you may encounter an alien who claims to be a stowaway, but cannot or will not provide information concerning the name of the vessel of arrival. Prior to April 1, 1997, such aliens could be handled in the same way as any other EWI [entered without inspection] case and placed into removal proceedings. The [Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act], however, directs that stowaways, regardless of when encountered, are to be removed without a hearing, citing section 235(a)(2) of the Act as the authority for the action."
The law is explicit: Illegal alien stowaways are to be detained and deported without hearings. James admitted that she and her son were illegal alien stowaways. Yet, in January 2002, James was released on a $1,500 bond; Malvo was set loose without any bond on his own recognizance.
I'd say that's high on the list of likelihoods.
If that turns out to be the case, who do you think will be the first Lefty to come to the defense of this misunderstood 17 year-old "boy?"
Oh please! I get on here to defend legal immigration quite often. But this is a clear case of illegal imigration. You are making quite a leap from the mother not being deportee to her being here legally. I would rather ask how someone admits to arriving with a boatload of illegals and remains outside deportation proceedings?
This is all a perfect example of how illegal immigration in all forms leads to increased risk from terrorism linked to Jihadist organizations and goals. The LAX shooter, the Bosnian bus slasher, and other supporters of terror are often here illegaly. This is a clear case of if the INS had done their job, several good innocent hard working people with families and kids would be alive now. If I were family of a victim, I would want to know who dropped the ball on this case.
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