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FoxNews slams Military: Major Label of Sniper is "Army Vet" NOT "Islamic Sniper"
Fox News, 01:00 AM (NewsBreak)

Posted on 10/24/2002 10:18:49 PM PDT by xzins

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To: anniegetyourgun
>>>I can see your reasoned response is going to make you the target for today. I'm sorry you stepped into it....

Appreciate the support, annie.

Being the voice the reason, sometimes opens you up to irrational and emotional responses.

201 posted on 10/25/2002 9:41:08 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Stone Mountain
No, you're right, we don't know this with certainty. I'm just using probabilistic reasoning here. In all probability (I believe the probability is 0.95 or greater), he either is a RAT, or strongly agrees with RATS on the vast majority of issues that are important to RATS.

And as someone else said, he's certainly not a Republican. :-)

202 posted on 10/25/2002 9:44:40 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: demosthenes the elder
Nupe. Not if you have a weak stomach -- like me. Every time I think about it, it makes me wanna hurl.
203 posted on 10/25/2002 9:50:35 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: anniegetyourgun
to what "reasoned" response were you referring?.. the one with scatological references or the one labeling folks as idiots, or such for not agreeing with him.
I appreciate your input, and your past statements show you as a decent well-meaning person.
Do not defend the above things as reasoned, though. They reveal a true bent towards unbending loyalty to his own ideas, and little acceptance of controversy. He needs to resort to name calling (he has referred to me as crazy, whacko, and made many other illogical statements to make himself appear on the right side).
This guy needs a better moniker, though, because I do not believe President Ronald Reagan would approve of such attacks in his name!
I just choose to disagree.
thanks again annie, for your input, but don't defend the indefensible, please. Boorishness is not a good trait to defend.
I apologize if I have stepped on toes I did not intend to STOMP
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205 posted on 10/25/2002 9:54:55 AM PDT by pageonetoo
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To: patrioticduty
DEFINITION of “Veteran” means any person who has been separated under honorable conditions from any branch of the armed forces after having served at least 90 days on active duty, one day must have been during wartime service.

Military personnel have a funny way of what makes a good soldier or "Vet". Like for example soldiers who do not complete and retire after 20 years, or that did not actually serve in a conflict shouldn't be classified as a vet. But then again this is just "semantics" I suppose. No reason to argue about it, this is just how a good majority of soldiers in the military feel about this. They understand that a few pieces of paper don't make a soldier necessarily. And the hype put behind this claim of (bogus) "specialize sniper training" is just the icing on the cake.

To receive marksman, or even expert qualifications, (the award) Army soldiers are not taken out and given any "special sniper training", you practice, you learn to zero your weapon, along with common safety procedures and maintenance on the weapon (and that usually is learned while cleaning the weapon for the rest of the day because the armor wants it back a hell of a lot cleaner than when he issued it to you! lol) and the like, but what is this sniper training everyone is talking about on the news???

"If political correctness is censoring and editorializing the truth to fit your political agenda, then it seems your wanting to highlight one aspect of the truth (his Islamic faith"

Then the same most certainly applies to the media at this point. But I would have to say they aren't highlighting the truth, they are not reporting it correctly for some reason, and at the least, stretching it to fit their "report". I could be wrong I suppose, since after hearing the media's version of events I stop watching them after the first 10 reports on John Mohammed's bio. If only the facts were reported then I have nothing to worry about, but seeing how the "facts" usually change with the media whores, maybe I am out of the loop on the latest?

207 posted on 10/25/2002 9:55:09 AM PDT by KineticKitty
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
I wish to be a leader of this group! Will you vote for me, please?
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208 posted on 10/25/2002 9:57:14 AM PDT by pageonetoo
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
"knowing the truth and not being able to speak his mind due to PC. "

I heard Fred speak his mind pretty clearly.

As far as I am concerned Fox does a pretty good job of running a network that is informative, particularly if you compare them to the other available networks. I occasionally scan MSNBC and CNN but usually only after Fox starts running the news wheel that I have already seen. I haven't bothered to watch ABC, NBC, or CBS news in years.

I guess I just don't understand what some people here would like to see on the shows. Maybe the anchor jumping up and down brandishing an automatic weapon shouting "Death to the Liberals?" You convert people through persuasion, not radicalism. Unless of course you want them to convert to Islam.

209 posted on 10/25/2002 9:58:55 AM PDT by Kerberos
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To: xzins
>>>Don't forget to say thank you... :>)

Thanks! I heard he was a bodyguard for Calypso Louie last night on Fox.

I expect we'll see even more background on John Muhammad coming out over the next week or so.

210 posted on 10/25/2002 10:04:14 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
"I was thinking about starting up a conservative cable news network. Thanks for the great idea! Now I wish I had the money."

LOL

Maybe you should start a fund. Could be tax advantages in it. :-)

214 posted on 10/25/2002 10:09:04 AM PDT by Kerberos
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
There seems to be quite a few FReepers lately, who've allowed their emotions to get the better of them and confronting others is their outlet to vent.

>>>Count me in this esteemed group.

Will do!

215 posted on 10/25/2002 10:09:31 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: LibWhacker
You hit it spot on!
216 posted on 10/25/2002 10:11:42 AM PDT by KineticKitty
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I didn't know that Ronnie. Very good point. Kinda like the Vietnam vet who never stepped out of the States. We both know a lot of those.

Nam Vet

217 posted on 10/25/2002 10:22:50 AM PDT by Nam Vet
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To: pageonetoo
I consider #3 a very reasoned position at this point. I haven't read anything else.
219 posted on 10/25/2002 10:25:51 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
"This would be done in front of a hand-picked studio audience that heckles and boo's the liberal guest as soon as he opens his/her mouth"

Yeah I get it. You mean like CNN does with Paul Begala and James(The Forehead)Carville on Crossfire.

220 posted on 10/25/2002 10:32:18 AM PDT by Kerberos
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