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To: rwfromkansas
You obviously don't have a 20 year career in the Army and KNOW that the Army doesn't produce this kind of idiot.

Islam, however, has a track record for doing so.

23 posted on 10/24/2002 10:45:37 PM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins
You obviously don't have a 20 year career in the Army and KNOW that the Army doesn't produce this kind of idiot.

Oh, please. The guy received his firearms training in the Army. If he didn't have the weapons familiarity he learned in the Army, this might not have happened. That's just reality. It's like you guys are arguing for some sort of gag order barring any mention of the fact that he is an army vet.

Most of us recall a famous former Marine who used his weapons training to kill. I'm a Marine, and don't take any offense at mentions of that because its just stating a fact. Nobody is saying that all army veterans are kooks or serial murderers. If you guys are perceiving it that way, then that's just your own paranoia. And if someone actually is saying that, then condemn them for the blanket statement. Don't condemn them for mentioning a detail that's relevant to painting an accurate overall picture of this guy. The truth is that neither the Army nor the Marines have any sort of immunity from producing a**holes.

As someone else pointed out early, the guy's name clearly identifies him as a moslem, so that's not exactly a secret. Its legitimate for people to wonder how he learned to shoot and, to that extent, his army experience is a relevant element of the story that should be reported. Lighten up. Heck, I'm a Gulf War vet, but I think its interesting that this guy was too. I don't take that as a slam or accusation against Gulf War vets in general. It's just reporting a story.

171 posted on 10/25/2002 7:26:34 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: xzins
I am not denigrating the army or anything. All I am saying is that his army period is the known time when he was involved with weapons. I am not saying the army caused him to do what he did. I also think it is his conversion to Islam. But, I do not think it is journalistically fair to speculate.
179 posted on 10/25/2002 8:09:13 AM PDT by rwfromkansas
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