[Bubba_Leroy]

Good news. All of the sniper victims are still alive! It didn't happen. I couldn't have. It was illegal for Muhammad to own a gun. Therefore he couldn't have had one. Another victory for gun control.

[Sgt_Schultze]

How can that happen? Isn't it against the law for the bad guys to get weapons. We need a way to make lawbreaking illegal. We need another law. Call your representatives. Demand they make a federal law making it illegal for any criminal to break the law. That ought to solve our problems - another law.

[coloradan]

So we have the adult passing a background check and purchasing at least one of the rifles, despite a restraining order, and we have have the youth being an illegal alien, released on his own recognizance by the INS to the custody of his mother. We also have that the license plate on the car was traced 10 times by the various dragnets after the sniper shootings ... even though the plate was issued to a car not matching the description of the one it was actually placed on.

Both of these people already were criminals, and yet slipped through the fingers of federal agencies. And for this reason many would seek to give these federal agencies even more powers, despite their repeated and demonstrated failures - at the expense of the rights of non-criminals.

NYSlimes "reporter" Fox Butterfield himself is one of these people calling for more gun laws.

[TC Rider]

Mr. Muhammad could have acquired that rifle any number of ways, the official said — perhaps through a corrupt gun dealer who provided false information to the F.B.I. when a background check was performed, from a private seller or at a gun show, where no background check is required.

The NYT has no qualms about publishing shameless lies. Purchases at gun shows from licensed dealers require the same background check as any gun store purchase.

More likely, he used a 'straw buyer' with a clean record (I wouldn't want to be that person now), or bought it from an individual.

[backhoe]

Locator ^

[CHICAGOFARMER]

Would post the full article instead of excerpt. I will not read nor comply with giving my personal informaiton to a scumbag like the new york times.

[Cpu]

Seattle Crimes Newsrag reports in Sat. edition.

When ATF arrived at Bulls Eye Shooters Supply in Tacoma, owner stated that the Bushmaster was still in inventory. Either it was stolen or sold without doing the paperwork. Bulls Eye has been cited in the past for paperwork violations.

cpu

[The Great RJ]

Even with an outright ban on firearms, nut cases like this guy would still find ways to arm themselves. Check out Australia--they disarmed their law abiding citizens, yet armed crime is on the rise.

Us gun toting Bubbas out here in fly-over country might be the best defense against terrorist attacks against the food supply. I can assure any would be terrorists that attempting to attack crops and livestock in these parts would be met by a well armed resistance.

[MissAmericanPie]

Not one gun law on the books has stopped one crime to date. Zero effectiveness should be rewarded with repeal of all gun laws on the books.

[ex-Texan]

"It is not yet known where or how Mr. Muhammad bought the Bushmaster rifle that the authorities say was used in the killings. It was the other gun that led to his being charged with illegal gun possession on Thursday in Federal District Court in Baltimore....."

Idiots at the NYT! It is obvious he picked up the gun on the black market. Criminals don't buy their guns legally. Everybody knows that .... Gun control doesn't stop criminals. Everybody ought to know that .... PC-Jerks! Idiots! Dumbsh!ts! .... Their ignorance is on display for the entire world ....

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAH !

[2timothy3.16]

Bushmaster Firearms, Inc.
999 Roosevelt Trail
Windham, ME 04062

I would bet that olympia snowe, sue collins, johnnie baldacci and his little buddy tom 'the mosquito' allen never saw a penny from this Maine company.

[blaster88]

Sniper killed people despite laws against murder!

[d101302]

After 9-11, all the liberals talked about was society examining itself, trying to find out "why they hate us".

When guns are involved, any notion of questioning society or the culture is thrown out the window. The problem is simply this: guns. Nothing else.

The same logic leads one to conclude that the real problem with 9-11 was the planes.

[Zon]

The big story in all this is that the government has failed miserably in it's one valid function -- to protect individual life-and-property rights. Failed miserably so it could succeed at upholding political correctness. It would be a grave mistake to compartmentalize the terrorist sniper because it's an event borne from a much wider-scope problem.

Politics suck -- politics suck objectivity out and insert irrationality in.

Sometimes a small error will be compounded over and over until it becomes a massive problem.

In mid-term and presidential elections tens-of-millions of people vote for the lesser of evils despite that it still begets evil. How can so many people thinking they're right be so wrong?

"The oppressor no longer acts directly and with his own powers upon his victim. No, our conscience has become too sensitive for that. The tyrant and his victim are still present, but there is an intermediate person between them, which is the Government - that is, the Law itself. What can be better calculated to silence our scruples, and, which is perhaps better appreciated, to overcome all resistance? We all therefore, put in our claim, under some pretext or other, and apply to Government. We say to it, "I am dissatisfied at the proportion between my labor and my enjoyments. I should like, for the sake of restoring the desired equilibrium, to take a part of the possessions of others. But this would be dangerous. Could not you facilitate the thing for me? Could you not find me a good place? or check the industry of my competitors? or, perhaps, lend me gratuitously some capital which, you may take from its possessor? Could you not bring up my children at the public expense? or grant me some prizes? or secure me a competence when I have attained my fiftieth year? By this mean I shall gain my end with an easy conscience, for the law will have acted for me, and I shall have all the advantages of plunder, without its risk or its disgrace!" - Frederic Bastiat

Thus it follows logically:

"The state is the great fiction by which everybody tries to live at the expense of everyone else." -- Frederic Bastiat

Politics suck.

War of Two Worlds
Value Creators versus Value Destroyers

The first thing civilization must have is business, science and art. It's what the individual and family needs so that its members can live creative, prosperous, happy lives. Business, science and art can survive, even thrive without government and its bureaucracy.

Government and its bureaucracy cannot survive without business and science. In general, business, science and the individual and family is the host and government and bureaucracy are parasites.

Keep valid government services that protect individual rights and private property rights while upholding the sanctity of private contracts -- military defense, FBI, CIA, police and courts. With the rest of government striped away those few valid services would be several fold more efficient and effective than they are today. 

Underwriters Laboratory is a private sector business that has to compete in a relatively free market. Underwriters laboratory is a good example of success where government fails.

Any government agency that is a value to people and society -- there are a few -- could much more effectively serve people and society by being in the private sector where competition demands maximum performance.

Wake up! They're parasites. We're their host. We don't need them. They need us.

You're the host. You don't need them -- they need you.

It's your life. Make them meet your terms and become a value creator or let them chose to perish.

[bandleader]

RIGHT ON!!Their(The Victims)Families Will Be So RELIEVED!!!!Thank God For Sara Brady!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Looking for Diogenes]

Sniper Suspect Obtained a Rifle Despite a Restraining Order and Gun Laws

And now he has been arrested for that violation and will doubtless be punished for it.

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

Amazing for law abiding citizens to have a background check just for excerising a constitutional right!

[punster]

Apparently, the perp bought the gun at a gun store in Washington state. He also filled out a form 4473, declaring himself not to be a prohibited person. So, that means there was a monumental screw-up in reporting his history of domestic violence to the screening database.

Sure sounds similar to White Trash Kathleen Kennedy Townsend calling for more gun control, while she did nothing to insure there wereadequate background checks in Maryland. Of course, KKT is White Trash, she is a Kennedy.

[pankot]

The rifle should get the death penalty, it did it. (sarcasm)

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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