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To: Libloather
No one but liberteens claim that laws are laws and must be obeyed. Anyone is free to civilly disobey any law which offends their conscience, and indeed are obligated to do so. The Nuremberg trials well established this precedence that conscience should be followed above any mere human law. Henry David Thoreau wrote a pamphlet about this very issue, but the moral-liberals seem to think the title was: "Civil Insurrection, and How to Whine About the Consequences of One's Actions"
46 posted on 10/27/2002 10:42:08 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Anyone is free to civilly disobey any law which offends their conscience, and indeed are obligated to do so.

That maybe more leftist than the leftists of the 60's!

Is this crap coming around for another go?

49 posted on 10/27/2002 10:45:55 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Cultural Jihad
No one but liberteens claim that laws are laws and must be obeyed.

1st of all libertarians would only claim that objective laws( ie laws establishing basic property rights, contract laws, laws against murder, theft etc) must be obeyed not the thousands of pages of illegitimate subjective laws our government issues every year( "If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill). Secondly plenty of non libertarians claim the law is the law the law and must be obeyed. Libertarians would claim the law is just the will of the rulers and has no MORAL legitimacy in and of itself its moral legitimacy would all depend on what the law said.

64 posted on 10/28/2002 8:06:41 AM PST by weikel
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To: Cultural Jihad
Anyone is free to civilly disobey any law which offends their conscience, and indeed are obligated to do so. The Nuremberg trials well established this precedence that conscience should be followed above any mere human law.

What an insightful comment. I would have been even more impressed if it hadn't been buried in petty insults.

66 posted on 10/28/2002 10:48:48 AM PST by MadameAxe
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