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Outgrowing the U.N. (WILLIAM F. BUCKELY slams Vicente Fox)
Townhall.com ^ | October 28th, 2002 | William F. Buckley

Posted on 10/28/2002 5:24:03 AM PST by Sabertooth

William F. Buckley, Jr. (archive)

October 28, 2002

Outgrowing the U.N.

Follow this one. Immediately after President Bush was inaugurated, he wooed Vicente Fox. President Fox was (is) the glamorous figure south of the border, something of a hero for having defeated the reigning party in Mexico, which had ruled happily and corruptly ever since winning the long revolutionary struggle to install democracy 70 years ago.

Bush was motivated by sound regional instincts, seeking a close association with our southern neighbor, and it didn't hurt that he had got a near plurality of the Texan Hispanic vote in the election. Anyway, Bush and Fox became, in the language of British schoolboys, BBCs -- Best Boy Chums.

But then came 9/11, and the vector of presidential energy turned to Iraq. Over the months we have had news of Sr. Vicente's disillusion. He had put together a packet of reforms of a kind he'd have identified as clinching U.S.-Mexican friendship. They had to do, of course, with the matter of Mexicans traveling to the United States, seeking in many cases to become American citizens. Short of that, to work here, be educated here, and to be cared for here in matters of health.

What has happened is that in order to express Mexican coolness over the distraction of the U.S. president, Mexico is threatening to vote with the wrong people in the forthcoming U.N. resolution on Iraq. Specifically, the Mexican ambassador is talking about the virtues of the alternative French proposal. It is to insist on progressive resolutions. The first would authorize a resumption of inspections in Iraq for forbidden things, like poisons and nuclear weapons. Only if that inspection were unsuccessful or inconclusive would a second resolution authorizing military action be considered. That contingent and emasculating approval of planned U.S. policies in Iraq is what France and Russia are demanding, and of course they both have the veto power.

Aware of this, the United States is greatly stressing, under diplomatic cover, the need to get a rousing vote from those countries in the Security Council who are there rotationally, without a veto. We are pretty confident we'll have support from Bulgaria, Colombia, Guinea and Norway, and we are hopeful about Cameroon and Singapore. Ireland and Mauritius are dicey, and of course we'd be losing Syria, which is no surprise. If we were planning to invade South Dakota, we couldn't count on help from North Dakota.

But Mexico! It would truly hurt, the State Department feels, if Mexico voted on the same side as (veto-armed) France and Russia.

What is laid bare in the above is the extent to which alien interests affect voting distributions. Whether the United States should move militarily against Iraq has zero to do with U.S. immigration policies involving Mexico, but nothing is clearer than that Mexican petulance is operative here.

In 1975, the U.N. General Assembly voted to declare that Zionism was racism. That declaration (rescinded in 1991) was one hell of a shock, with implications that included sending Daniel Patrick Moynihan to the U.S. Senate, to celebrate his eloquent and outraged rebuke, as American ambassador, of the racism vote. Mexico voted the anti-Israel line, and a few weeks later the Mexican tourist business all but closed down: the American Jewish community decided to take action of its own, and a legion of planned meetings and visits to Mexico by Jewish organizations were canceled. (Mexico got the word, and crawled back, denouncing the declaration it had voted for.)

All of which highlights the continuing peril of banking on U.N. approval. The rhetoric of 1990, used by the senior Bush administration, was historically reckless. Pleading for approval by the United Nations of the proposed military action to oust Iraq from Kuwait, there were suggestions that unless the U.N. vote favored the action, we would not undertake it. The U.N. did, and Congress did, though narrowly.

We have got to live with the historical implications of our pre-eminence in world affairs. Policies initiated by the president and approved by Congress cannot be subordinated to parliamentary allocations of power arrived at in 1945 (why a French veto power, not a Japanese or German?). If it is the consolidated judgment of democratically elected U.S. leadership that Saddam Hussein must be tamed, it is irrelevant what the Security Council of the United Nations does.

We would benefit more in the long term if the French (or Russians) did veto the desired resolution, so that by proceeding against Iraq, we would simultaneously destroy the aggressive power of Saddam and the passive power of the U.N.

William F. Buckley, Jr. is editor of National Review, a TownHall.com member group.

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What has happened is that in order to express Mexican coolness over the distraction of the U.S. president, Mexico is threatening to vote with the wrong people in the forthcoming U.N. resolution on Iraq. Specifically, the Mexican ambassador is talking about the virtues of the alternative French proposal...

Whether the United States should move militarily against Iraq has zero to do with U.S. immigration policies involving Mexico, but nothing is clearer than that Mexican petulance is operative here.

Mexico could be such a great country.





1 posted on 10/28/2002 5:24:03 AM PST by Sabertooth
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2 posted on 10/28/2002 5:27:58 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
I once read a great line in a book about travelling in France. The author had stopped at a cafe in Brittany for lunch. He got into a conversation with a French couple in the next table, who were natives of the Brittany area.

They said that France was a great country spoiled only by the people living in Paris.
3 posted on 10/28/2002 5:40:42 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: Sabertooth
Mexico could be such a great country.

Not without some fundamental changes, e.g. a common law legal system, a fundamental understanding of the rule of law, eradication of corruption in public and private life, and, probably, a new population.

The Mexicans still haven't gotten over their humiliating defeat in the Mexican War over 150 years ago or the disregard of Mexican sovereignty embodied in the Vera Cruz Incident and the Punitive Expedition with Pershing chasing Pancho Villa early in the 20th century. The Mexicans are proud of their country and its 'civilization' and hate us because, for the most part, Americans don't take Mexico seriously and consider the Mexicans ignorant, lazy, priest-ridden and corrupt.

4 posted on 10/28/2002 5:52:17 AM PST by CatoRenasci
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To: Sabertooth
Did you know that WF Buckley didn't speak English until he was about 10 or so and went off to school? Before that, he spoke Spanish.
5 posted on 10/28/2002 5:56:19 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Sabertooth
Let mexico vote with whoever they want to and then eliminate all commerce with Mexico and send all Illegal Mexicans back where they came from and bill the Mexican" Government".
The U.N. is as useless as Teats on a Bull, what are they doing in Zimbawbe both for the white farmers being murdered and for the citizens of Zimbawbe who are starving? Nothing!

Let's get out of the U.N. alltogether they are completely ineffective.
6 posted on 10/28/2002 6:09:55 AM PST by chatham
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To: chatham
BINGO!! Your post was short, but hit the nail on the head. The U.N. is just a group of anti-American countries posing sometimes as allies, to line up for a portion of OUR tax dollars to spend on their people who care not about us or anything except themselves and how to better their worldly position. Just another form of WELFARE.
7 posted on 10/28/2002 6:17:28 AM PST by Fighter@heart
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To: CatoRenasci
Not without some fundamental changes, e.g. a common law legal system, a fundamental understanding of the rule of law, eradication of corruption in public and private life, and, probably, a new population.

I'm not sure about the new population, but the one you need to add to your list is they need to have stronger property rights. No country can prosper without an understood right to private property.

8 posted on 10/28/2002 6:29:46 AM PST by webstersII
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To: webstersII
My bad. I'm so steeped in the Anglo-American legal and philosophica traditions that when I speak of the rule of law and a common law legal system, I assume that everyone knows that property rights are fundamental, both philosphically ala Locke and as the Rights of Englishmen guaranteed since Magna Charta and in the formation of the common law since time out of mind.
9 posted on 10/28/2002 6:39:16 AM PST by CatoRenasci
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To: Sabertooth
Great article by Buckley. Fox is acting like a spoiled school brat. Let him vote no. Who gives a sh*t? The UN is totally worthless anyway, full of a bunch of despotic, third world country who just want the US's money for their dictatorial and immoral regimes.

The US should just get out and stay out. Pox on all of them. Errrrrrr.

10 posted on 10/28/2002 7:05:10 AM PST by Wphile
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To: Sabertooth
Mexico is threatening to vote with the wrong people in the forthcoming U.N. resolution on Iraq

< rant >Who the hell are THEY?! Anybody who's driven through Mexico knows that Fox should be getting his own house in order rather than weighing in on things that are bigger than him, way above his head, and only a means of manipulating things so that Mexico's "non-elite" invade our borders. What Fox is trying to do is turn Mexico in the U.S. and the U.S. into Mexico!

Based on the age of Mexico's civilization, natural resources and climate alone, Mexico should by now all accounts be 10 times richer and more progressive than the U.S. But, they aren't. Maybe he should be spending more time trying to figure out and fix why they continue to be little better than 3rd world.< /rant >

11 posted on 10/28/2002 7:16:22 AM PST by hispanarepublicana
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To: CatoRenasci
"The Mexicans are proud of their country and its 'civilization' and hate us because, for the most part, Americans don't take Mexico seriously and consider the Mexicans ignorant, lazy, priest-ridden and corrupt."

Well they are, all of the above, so to heck with them.

12 posted on 10/28/2002 7:21:21 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: CatoRenasci
"The Mexicans are proud of their country and its 'civilization' and hate us because, for the most part, Americans don't take Mexico seriously and consider the Mexicans ignorant, lazy, priest-ridden and corrupt."

Well they are, all of the above, so to heck with them.

13 posted on 10/28/2002 7:21:23 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Sabertooth
THE ELECTION IS IN 8 DAYS
AND I CAN'T VOTE.

PLEASE, HELP TAKE BACK THE SENATE.
IT'S FOR THE PUPPIES!

TakeBackCongress.org

A resource for conservatives who want a Republican majority in the Senate

14 posted on 10/28/2002 7:22:35 AM PST by ffrancone
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To: CatoRenasci
"The Mexicans are proud of their country and its 'civilization' and hate us because, for the most part, Americans don't take Mexico seriously and consider the Mexicans ignorant, lazy, priest-ridden and corrupt. "

This thinking is nothing new. Just change "Mexicans/Mexico" to "Irish/Ireland, Italian/Italians, Polish/Poland," -- well, you get it -- any predominately Papist population, and you pretty much have nativist thinking for the last 150+ years.
15 posted on 10/28/2002 7:36:29 AM PST by karlamayne
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To: chatham
Got news for you. In a few years it will be Americans that are sent home to the rest of the US (if there still is any)
having been declared illegal aliens in the new land of Aztlan. Wake up America. These guys are not fooling.
16 posted on 10/28/2002 7:37:06 AM PST by willyone
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To: MissAmericanPie
My experiences in Mexico, both as a young man travelling around on a shoestring in the '60s and as a business lawyer travelling there in the 1980s, are the primary sources of my negative opinion of Mexico, its people and their ways.

Individual Mexicans, of both the highest and lowest classes, can be wonderful, warm and friendly people, The entire system and world-view, however foster indolence, ignorance (often masquarading as education, which is scary) and corruption. I have almost never met a Mexican who had even a remotely adequate understanding of, or any appreciation for, our legal system and the Anglo-American worldview about individual rights and liberty.

Mexicans of my acquaintence were really still intellectually mired in either Marxism or a sort of 19th century Spanish view of the world.

17 posted on 10/28/2002 7:40:29 AM PST by CatoRenasci
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To: Sabertooth
The last paragraph says it all.
18 posted on 10/28/2002 7:50:10 AM PST by cynicom
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To: ffrancone
THE ELECTION IS IN 8 DAYS AND I CAN'T VOTE. PLEASE, HELP TAKE BACK THE SENATE. IT'S FOR THE PUPPIES!

Of course you can vote! Just go talk to your local Democratic Party representative and you can vote all you want.

19 posted on 10/28/2002 7:53:14 AM PST by arthurus
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To: CatoRenasci
The Mexicans are proud of their country and its 'civilization' and hate us because, for the most part, Americans don't take Mexico seriously and consider the Mexicans ignorant, lazy, priest-ridden and corrupt.

All true

20 posted on 10/28/2002 7:58:03 AM PST by montag813
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