Al-Qaeda has nukes, says intel

http://www.washtimes.com/world/20021028-9543907.htm ^ | 10/28/02

[BureaucratusMaximus]

Well, at least if there ever IS a true nuclear device set off in the US, the people that die will at least have given their lives to insure that all radical Muslims on Earth will be hunted into extinction, both via government decree and citizen vigilante groups; and that the immigration problem in the US will be solved permanently and quickly; the public will end up rioting if Congress and the White House don't start immediate, hardcore crackdowns and massive deportations.

Exactly...sadly the WTC was not enough to inject some reality into people...more innocents will have to die before what really needs to be done IS done.

[Orangedog]

There is also the issue of the 70 or 80 missing "suitcase" nukes that the Russians cannot account for. They didn't just stand up and walk away. I've heard the argument that even if these were sold to terrorists by disgruntled Russian soldiers, they couldn't be triggered because of the mechanical and electronic safeguards built into them to prevent unauthotized use. As someone who is trained in the design of electronics, I can be fairly confident in stating that ANY kind of electronic safeguard built into these foot-locker sized devices can be bypassed. If there is a triggering device built into these, they CAN be "hot-wired" and it doesn't take a Von Braun-level rocket scientist to do it.

Depending on who you believe, there is a former Soviet officer who defected to the US years ago who says that the Soviets had managed to deploy several of these devices in US cities during the cold war. If that is true, then it truely is later than we all think.

[American in Israel]

They can be set to detonate using an built-in timer or can be triggered remotely with a mobile phone call.

Wow, that would put a whole new light on "wrong number".

Seriously, Russia reports 83 nuke warheads missing, a Russian intelegence agent claims he knows some were sold to Oslama, and Oslama claims to have them. That is three for three. I don't think "nothing to see folks, move along" is going to be enough to sweep this under the rug.

[Mixer]

What scares me is that the INS is dysfunctional and terrorists have no problem getting into this country

Law enforcement of these people has also proven to be a challenge. Back in early 2001 Mohammad Atta was pulled over for speeding and could not produce a license. It was later believed that he had an Egyptian license but either did not produce it or did not have it with him. He was told by the officer who pulled him over that a required court date was setup and if he did not attend a warrant would be out for his arrest. In the meantime Atta applied for, and received, a USA license and never attended the court date. A warrant was issued for his arrest. He was again pulled over for speeding and produced the USA license. A check on this license did not allow the officer to see that there was a warrant for Atta's arrest.

What went wrong here goes on more likely then we know and futute attacks can only be prevented if we start profiling.

[spetznaz]

I am still laughing! That was truly funny! LOL.

Take care.

[spetznaz]

Ping!

[Poohbah]

Atomic Demolitions Munitions (ADMs), as portable nuclear weapons are formally known, are miniaturized warheads that were developed by the United States during the Vietnam War. They were designed for use against key infrastructure targets, such as bridges and dams. The Soviets soon followed suit and produced their version in huge quantities. They were secretly buried near targets in the West by specially trained GRU agents as part of a Soviet strategy to knock out key government and military targets and hamper response to a nuclear attack.

I'm sure the GRU would bury nuclear weapons where Clem and Earl could dig them up.

"Hey, Clem, I wouldn't go messing with that. That thar looks like they Rooskie Sir-Ill-Ik writin.' We better call the sherriff."

"Earl, this here's gotta be something worth hidin', like money. Hold muh beer and WATCH THIS!"

[CougarGA7]

There are just too many holes in the dike.

I count seven. Nine if you count the eyes.

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[weikel]

We should let it be known if they nuke us no muslim man woman or child on earth will be spared( except maybe the Turks).

[doc30]

Hah, go for it. We have other sources of oil and a civilization capable of innovation. We would be able to recover from a meltdown. The same cannot be said of an Islamic superstate.

And such a Superstate would be in land-mass size only. Imagine the rich gulf nations without oil resources. THey would make Afghanistan look like Disney World!

[riri]

Are you still in Israel?!?

But seriously, remember the warning of three phases of attacks. The final being so detrimental, it destroys the U.S.

Ofcourse, one has to ask-as they are being rounded up, jailed and bombed-what are they waiting for?

[jonascord]

You didn't do well in physics, thermodynamics, or accounting, did you? Until you can come up with a substance that can provide an equivalent number of convertable, portable, and inexpensive BTUs per kilo of mass, spare me the wind/solar BS.

[wardaddy]

I'm not even sure that would do it Sink.....we are as soft as a populace (not militarily) as any major power has ever been....in fact I know of no parallel.

Sadly.

[widgysoft]

ROTFLMAO

[Monty22]

"Ofcourse, one has to ask-as they are being rounded up, jailed and bombed-what are they waiting for? "

Probably thinking.. So many targets, so few warheads (if they have about 50).

[null and void]

What is the personell strength of N.E.S.T.?

Nuclear Emergency Search Team.

We could tell you, but we'd have to kill you...

;^)

[backhoe]

Tiny Nukes-- the backpack threat

[Dog Gone]

Has anybody stopped to think that a large part of the problem is the oil companies? If they weren't blocking research into alternate fuels at every corner, we'd have a good solar or wind or something power by now.

How are they blocking research?

[null and void]

How are they blocking research?

I have a small solar array on my roof. It's a small array because if I generate more power than I use, by law, the "excess" is a gift to PG&E.

Granted, this isn't blocking research, it's just kicking the legs out from under implementation...