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Russian military in Chechnya thirsting for revenge
smh.com.au ^ | October 30 2002 | AFP

Posted on 10/29/2002 11:03:45 AM PST by Destro

Russian military in Chechnya thirsting for revenge

October 30 2002

The Moscow hostage crisis in which 117 theatre-goers died has fired Russian troops in Chechnya with dreams of vengeance, and many are fretting about legal constraints that might hold them back.

"The hostage-taking proves we must fight the terrorists, and not only in Chechnya. But we are in a difficult situation," Maxim, a Russian army sergeant said.

"Every time we arrest a suspect, local officials come protesting and Chechen women stage a rally," he complained.

That view is widespread among Russian troops who have been strongly criticised by non-governmental organisations (NGOs) for paying scant regard to human rights or basic legality in their fight against "terrorism."

Russia has branded its anti-insurgency campaign against Chechen separatists as part of the international campaign against terrorism despite the thinness of the evidence linking rebel Chechen president Aslan Maskhadov to known terror networks such as al-Qaeda.

"This is a real war for us, with explosions and battles every day. But we can do nothing - officially we have only civilians around," Maxim said.

Moscow relaunched its so-called "anti-terrorist operation" in Chechnya in October 1999 after a three-year period of de facto independence in the southern republic, but has so far been unable to stamp its authority on the mountainous terrain or eliminate guerrilla activity despite the presence of 80,000 troops and police.

Russian military in Chechnya blamed a failure of the intelligence services for last week's hostage-taking in which a heavily-armed 50-strong commando brought large quantities of explosives into the heart of Moscow and took over a popular theatre.

Several officers called for a detailed program for fighting terrorism to be implemented in Chechnya and throughout Russia.

"Unless there is such a program, there will be no peace or stability," Oleg, a 30-year-old officer, said.

"We know these scoundrels well. It's unlikely the terrorist act in Moscow was the last," Maxim said.

"Russia's public has begun to forget the war in Chechnya. The government must understand that the war is not over and that we must go to the bitter end and wipe out all the terrorists," he added.

Security in the Chechen capital Grozny has been stepped up since the hostage-taking crisis and its bloody denouement.

"We will not forget anyone. We are already working on getting the rest of the group led by Movsar Barayev," the leader of the Chechen commando in Moscow, an officer at a Grozny checkpost said.

The crisis was resolved early on Saturday as Russian special forces mounted an assault, pumping the theater full of gas that stunned the rebels but also poisoned the hostages, of whom 115 died.

Meanwhile, Chechens living in and around Moscow have begun reporting harassment and summary detention by Russian police.

AFP


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: caucasuslist; chechnya
Chechen Rebels Shoot Down Russian Chopper, 4 Dead
1 posted on 10/29/2002 11:03:45 AM PST by Destro
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To: Destro
It is going to get worse before it gets better.

Hell on earth is comming to the jihad.

Moskovskiy Komsomolets believes the time for talks is over. It ponders President Vladimir Putin's comment that Russia "will respond with measures commensurate to the threats". Experts the newspaper consulted weren't certain but thought "this might mean the pre-emptive use of weapons of mass destruction". In other words, troops in Chechnya will now "have the chance to use military hardware and weaponry previously regarded as unsuitable for local conflicts at home and intended only for warfare on a global scale".

2 posted on 10/29/2002 11:06:23 AM PST by Destro
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To: Destro
"Every time we arrest a suspect, local officials come protesting and Chechen women stage a rally," he complained.

I am sure Sgt. Maxim and AG Ashcroft could commiserate together.

3 posted on 10/29/2002 11:16:14 AM PST by elbucko
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4 posted on 10/29/2002 12:03:29 PM PST by Free the USA
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To: Destro
The Russians will round up all the Chechens in Moscow and get rid of them. Perhaps, Denmark would be kind enough to accept these Chechens as residents.

The Russians should take a lesson from the way we got rid of our "Indian Problem": we killed those who refused to surrender, the rest we rounded up and shipped to reservations to starve. Not pretty - but, it was effective

The sad part of modern Chechen history is that they obtained substantial self-determination and autonoamy from Russia in 1996. Instead of building a nation, the Chechens embarked on a life of criminal banditry, rape, kidnapping and mutliation of each other and anyone foolish enough to come near them. Then they embraced radical Jihadism and invited fanatic Arabs into their miste - kind-hearted folks like Khattab, "The Butcher". Then they whooped themselves into Islamic fury, gave themselves names such as "wolves of Chechnya" and set off to conquere Russia. They didn't get very far.

Now they find themselves in a hell-hole of their own making and want the world to take pity on them.

Forget it, Chechens. You folks don't deserve any pity or human compassion. You folks sought to get your way by terror and now you will be consumed by terror imposed by the Russians.

5 posted on 10/29/2002 3:53:22 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3
The Russians will round up all the Chechens in Moscow and get rid of them. It won't be that easy. Chechyns own a large portion of Moscow downtown. Most of their money comes from Saudi Arabia and they also control the most vicious Mafia. It would take very serious blood letting for your dream to come true.
6 posted on 10/29/2002 6:06:08 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton
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To: Destro
It's past time for all terrorists to go to their grave.

Ivan can kill all the terrorists he wants. I won't shed a tear, I will cheer.

7 posted on 10/29/2002 6:19:10 PM PST by LibKill
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To: Destro
Whether its us, Israel, Russia, India, or anyone else, the more Sand nazis put in their graves the safer the world will be.
8 posted on 10/29/2002 6:37:26 PM PST by republicman
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Stalin had no problem rounding up the Chechens and shipping them all to Siberia.

Russian people have historically risen to ruthlessly defend their homes against far more dangerous enemies than the Chechens. Once Putin gives the order to rid Moscow of Chechens they will be hunted down throughout the city.

9 posted on 10/30/2002 2:12:05 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Destro
Hell on earth is comming to the jihad.

I certainly they get it!

10 posted on 10/30/2002 2:17:09 AM PST by neutrino
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