A Parent's Guide to Preventing Homosexuality: New Book on Prevention Released in October 2002

NARTH ^ | Joseph and Linda Nicolosi

[Condorman]

a healthy mind wants to at least attempt to continue the popultaion.

Is it your contention that an interest in sex results from a desire to increase the population? I submit you have cause and effect reversed. Just ask India. And Somalia. And China. And Ethiopia. Et cetera.

[Pookie Me]

"This resource will be valuable to many parents who do not want their children to grow up homosexual."

WHAT THE HELL KIND OF COMMENT IS THAT? I mean, take away the fact of those who want this to be normal and accepted by everyone, regardless of the moral and ethical problems..

All this book does is prey upon those morons who think they can mold someone into a desired personality. THE EXACT SAME THING THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA IS BEING ACCUSED OF! I guess I just didn't think about getting rich this way, I should write a book HOW TO KEEP YOUR CHILDREN FROM GROWING UP DEMOCRAT..

Pookie & Me

[bzrd]

ping

[elisabeth]

Here's an excellent question to stump any good liberal: "Suppose homosexuality is genetic. I discover I'm pregnant, and through a prenatal test, discover that the fetus I'm carrying is homosexual. I choose to abort for this reason. In your mind, is this ethical?"

[BikerNYC]

point is, people still have the urge to make children. HEALTHY people that is.

Some do, yes; but some don't.

[Antoninus]

Mega bumps. The Nicolosi's are incredibly brave to release a book like this. They will be slandered up the east coast and down the west. They will receive hate mail, death threats, and be confronted by frothing angry members of the gaystapo for the rest of their lives.

Yet this book has the potential to be a great boon to parents and to society in general. Based on what the homo-promo crowd is attempting to do in the Boy Scouts, schools, our churches and synagogues, the Big Brothers/Big Sisters, is there any doubt that they are after our children? We must NOT let our children be homosexualized. is in

[Antoninus]

Explain contraception and abortion.

These are the expected results when the sins of sloth and vanity overwhelm and counteract the natural urges. Raising a family used to be the most important thing a person could do. Now-a-days, we've traded child-rearing for more pressing concerns -- like career, golf, skiing, watching TV, casual sex, parties, gambling, etc.

[garbanzo]

I don't normally involve myself in these threads (at least not since a long long time ago) but I would like to at least point out a bothersome flaw in the article.

Nowhere does the author present any info supporting his claim. Now before you accuse me a being a PC liberal or something - I'm not debating whether or not homosexuality is biological or environmental based (It's probably a mixture of both) but the article essentially presents his hypothesis without any clinical evidence. Even if his method does "work", how well does it work vs. doing nothing or doing something other method? Doesn't seem to be answered.

[Robert Lomax]

How about homosexuality being a cult religion??

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Prayer bump!

[kancel]

I am so very sorry for the losses your famly has gone through.

I don't know what specifically about your post made me think about this but I remember when was living in San Francisco finding out how very hard it seemed for a straight girl to find a guy who was interested in girls (and of course not already taken). I remember at a party one time realizing that it wasn't just the grown ups tht were gay but a MUCH higher than normal percentage of teenagers too. In other words I knew plenty of adults who had moved to SF from just about everywhere else because they were gay and wanted to be in an accepting atmosphere. But the children (if you can call teenagers that still) hadn't moved there out of choice but had been raised there by circumstance.

I guess it was the first time I thought about the possibility that homosexuality could be a learned behavior. Which of course led me to "if it can be learned it can be unlearned."

[yendu bwam]

All this book does is prey upon those morons who think they can mold someone into a desired personality. THE EXACT SAME THING THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA IS BEING ACCUSED OF! I guess I just didn't think about getting rich this way, I should write a book HOW TO KEEP YOUR CHILDREN FROM GROWING UP DEMOCRAT..

Hey there, Pookie - Homosexuality is NOT a personality. It's a serious and abnormal psychological disorder. There are strong correlations between homosexuality (esp. male homosexuality) and lack of love from a father or older brother, lack of same-sex friendships in childhood and homosexual molestation while a teenager. What the authors of this book are pointing out is that it is very likely that avoiding such will help kids develop a normal sexuality. And even if they're wrong - what would be wrong with encouraging the love of a father for a son, encouraging (normal) same-sex friendships and protecting kids from homosexual molestation? I believe there's a great deal of truth to what this books says.

[webstersII]

Nowhere does the author present any info supporting his claim.

Did you not read the part where they interviewed hundreds and hundreds of gay people and asked them what influenced them into this lifestyle? Then they took the common threads from these interviews to work backwards on how to prevent it.

Are you looking for a controlled, double-blind research project to substantiate this? Ain't gonna happen, because there are too many variables and it would be abuse to try to experiment with something like this. But there are plenty of studies about abused and molested children which draw conclusions about gender-identity.

What the authors are trying to do is to explain how to strengthen relationships in the family to prevent the abundant negative influences from shaping children. This is a good idea in general because it will help kids become more well-adjusted and able to deal with their peer group much better growing up.

[OldBlondBabe]

"I should write a book HOW TO KEEP YOUR CHILDREN FROM GROWING UP DEMOCRAT.."

Excellent idea.

[garbanzo]

Did you not read the part where they interviewed hundreds and hundreds of gay people and asked them what influenced them into this lifestyle? Then they took the common threads from these interviews to work backwards on how to prevent it

Yes - but this isn't evidence that his "treatment" works. This is junk science at its worst - there doesn't seem to be any control group here so I can't compare the responses of the subjects to the population at large. Even if the results are significant (a big assumption) he provides no evidence that the information from the "common threads" work in the manner he suggests. For example, if he'd found that gay people like to eat fondue, he presents no evidence that preventing people from eating fondue would alter their sexual orientation.

Are you looking for a controlled, double-blind research project to substantiate this?

Yes.

This is how real scientists work - but pseudoscientists like to skip the boring "experiment" and "research" parts and go straight to the conclusion. Protocols exist for examining these issues and no abuse is needed. Any researcher who complains about "too many variables" in a study needs to find another line of work because he wasn't paying attention in his classes on statistics and analysis. Simply compare families who use this technique to families who use no special technique. It's used all the time in various studies. But that would require work and it might not give the researcher above the results he wanted.