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To: TXnMA; Fred Mertz; PhilDragoo; citizenK
Thanks, Fred, for flagging me and asking for my input. PhilDragoo’s comment #15 is exactly what happened in this article by Jeff Johnson. Phil says, “The article is lazy journalism, putting a microphone in front of a homeless person at a bus stop who says she’s Catherine the Great.” I just loved that comment from Phil. This Internet news service has admitted they don’t have the funds or time to investigate McCauley and her claims. But they are still going to let McCauley have her say. That is absolutely ridiculous. Jayna had been vetted for months by Wall Street Journal, L.A. Weekly, and other publications. This organization did not vet McCauley at all. They did not seem to even do a cursory search on the Internet, because that would have been very interesting and revealing.

Jayna has given a rebuttal to CNSNEWS on every point that McCauley has made. They may allow a portion of Jayna’s rebuttals to get some exposure. We’ll see.

CitizenK, you also had some very insightful observations!

I do not know a lot about McCauley. I became suspicious of McCauley right after she came to Oklahoma City. A relative of mine lives in Colorado and heads up an organization that puts out a newspaper. This paper had investigated a disinformation agent and my cousin was very concerned that McCauley fit the profile. She had heard Charles Key and McCauley when they came to Colorado. She had talked to McCauley and asked a few questions about the Middle Eastern connection and how McCauley ended up coming to Oklahoma City. McCauley’s answers raised a lot of red flags to my relative. So, I became very wary of McCauley. One thing that always caused us to take notice of people is how did they stand on the Middle Eastern connection to Oklahoma City. If they would dismiss it out of hand without even looking at the information, that raised a red flag. The time I talked to McCauley in person, I asked her about the Middle Eastern connection. She seemed to be dismissive about the whole thing to me.

An Internet search showed an interview that McCauley did for a Boston radio station called the connection. Twenty-eight minutes into the program she says the following, “Even after the inspector general’s report an FBI agent went before an Oklahoma County Grand Jury and continued to give wrong information.” She would be referring to John Hersley because he was the agent dispatched to go before the Grand Jury. Boy, she has sure changed her tune now. I have mine own ideas on why she would make this comment back in 2001 but now seems to change her tune. At this point, I am trying to be cautious about what I say publicly about McCauley. Jayna is quite capable of defending herself and hopefully, her answers will be released today or at least by Monday.

An Associated Press story that was picked up by Southcoast Today quotes McCauley as saying. “Cate McCauley, who worked on the McVeigh defense team and also witnessed the execution, then told (Bill) McVeigh: 'I’d like to say you have a very brave son, and he’s free.'”

I would never use the word brave to describe a mass murderer.

In this thread, several investigators have been mentioned, J.D. Cash, Roger Charles, Cate McCauley who all seemed to work together according to some of the comments made on this thread. I personally would not work with any of them. I never felt that any of their motives were to advance the truth. Honway, you seem to think that Roger Charles was the one that burned Stephen Jones. I had always wondered if it was J.D. Cash.

The Freepers have been great to encourage Jayna! She is very appreciative!

My grandson is waking up so I better post this and take care of him. Someone that knows how to post this to the entire bump list, feel free to do so.
46 posted on 11/01/2002 11:09:21 AM PST by Nancie Drew
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To: Nancie Drew
Honway, you seem to think that Roger Charles was the one that burned Stephen Jones. I had always wondered if it was J.D. Cash

I believe at his core, Stephen Jones is a man of integrity. In his book "Others Unknown"p.299,300, Jones describes a defense investigator's interaction with J.D. Cash in publicizing the "McVeigh confession was a hoax" story. The way I read it, Jones seems to be clear in his book that J.D. Cash and "X" are two different people. If they are the same person, IMO Jones deceived his readers and I do not believe Jones would do that.

47 posted on 11/01/2002 11:33:10 AM PST by honway
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To: Nancie Drew; All
http://www.s-t.com/daily/06-01/06-12-01/a01ho013.htm

Bill McVeigh says he's "all right" after execution

Cate McCauley, who worked on the McVeigh defense team and also witnessed the execution, then told McVeigh: "I'd like to say you have a very brave son, and he's free."

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Tim McVeigh participated in the murder of 168 innocent people, including children.
I think Ms. McCauley owes us an explanation of what the word "brave" means as well as the word "free" in this context.

49 posted on 11/01/2002 12:04:11 PM PST by honway
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To: Nancie Drew
appreciate your input here.
50 posted on 11/01/2002 1:40:13 PM PST by thinden
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To: Alamo-Girl; Gary Aldrich; amom; archy; aristeides; anymouse; AtticusX; backhoe; baseballmom; ...
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Thank you! BTTT

for a great Must-Read comment by Nancie Drew!
53 posted on 11/01/2002 2:00:45 PM PST by TXnMA
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To: Nancie Drew; honway; TXnMA
Check this out:

Topic: OKC Bombing
We need your help

OKBIC
08/14/98 Cate McCauley OKBIC Executive Director

We Need Your Help

Many of our loyal readers have written or called to ask how they can help us. Here's the perfect way to assist the OK Bombing Investigation.

As you may know, the OKBIC is preparing to take this case to Congress. Members of our committee were in Washington DC this past May lobbying members of Congress for public hearings. There are two areas of concern we plan to pursue: 1) federal building safety and; 2) the Judiciary Committee, which oversees the U.S. Justice Dept.

We have a Petition for Congress that needs as many signatures as possible, from every corner of our country (But we also welcome our foreign readers to join in). We need to demonstrate that the American people do care about what happened here in Oklahoma City. So many lingering unanswered questions is simply unacceptable.

Please print out a copy of our Petition and send it to your friends and family. If we receive even one page of signatures each from the thousands of readers who check into this site each month, it will help us tremendously.

Once you have the Petitions signed, mail them back to us and we will include them in our Congressional Report.

Need some inspiration? Sometimes others say it best. Please read our editorials on ``Why We Should Care?" ``Ambrose Evans-Pritchard's Farewell & Warning to America" and ``It's All Too Familiar."

And finally, I wish to extend my gratitude to everyone for your kind words of support. You really do help us by letting us know you care. There are many victims' families here who are also touched by your concern. We all appreciate anything you can do to support our efforts.

Sincerely,
Cate McCauley
OKBIC Executive Director

The above appears in the Free Republic archive at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a529277.htm

"Help us give this coverup an appearance of broad support."

56 posted on 11/01/2002 4:39:32 PM PST by PhilDragoo
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