[pgyanke]

"Maybe the purpose is to make your own purpose"?! Ok... let's go with that a second. The fundamental premise of your statement still presupposes that there is a purpose. Even if our purpose is to make our own purpose, it still require a conscious endowment of purpose.

I make my own purpose? Where is that anywhere in the realm of reality? Is a vehicle designed with a purpose or does it make up its own? Creations don't make their own purpose. They are created with a reason for their creation in mind.

The purpose of the creator? The creator came into the world Himself and told us His purpose. He is the eternal and living God and we are here to learn to love Him absolutely. He was not created. Before the universe existed, He existed. We presume way too much when we put God in the square hole fit for human understanding.

The first sin recorded in the Bible is the devil's sin. He wanted to be God himself. How dangerous the mindset that seeks the same goal.

[BikerNYC]

I make my own purpose? Where is that anywhere in the realm of reality? Is a vehicle designed with a purpose or does it make up its own?

Do vehicles think? We do. We can create. We can create our own purpose.

Creations don't make their own purpose.

They do when they are conscious.

They are created with a reason for their creation in mind.

I'm sure Dr. Frankenstein had a purpose in mind for his monster when he created it, but as soon as his monster was created, it was free to create its own purpose. Do you think that monster had to listen to the good Doctor pontificating on what its purpose was? Hell no. It was completely free to go out in the world and create its own.

The purpose of the creator? The creator came into the world Himself and told us His purpose. He is the eternal and living God and we are here to learn to love Him absolutely.

We are here to learn to love him? Stop talking about us. Talk about the Creator. What is he here to do? Be loved? If he has a purpose, who created it for him (assuming, like you do, that conscious beings are not free to create their own purposes)? If he doesn't have a purpose apart from what he decides for himself, what quality about him makes that possible? That he is conscious? Like us?

He was not created. Before the universe existed, He existed.

Can you prove that? How can it be that such a complex being as God, something cabable of creating an entire universe and everything inside it, everything that needs a creator itself, how can it be that such a being does not itself have a creator? If something so simple as a rock needs to be created because of its complexity, why wouldn't God not need a creator as well?