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Dole Links License To Drug Test
Charlotte Observer ^ | October 30, 2002 | Mark Johnson

Posted on 10/31/2002 4:57:12 AM PST by Wolfie

Dole Links License To Drug Test

Elizabeth Dole wants to require all teenagers to pass a drug test before getting a driver's license. Dole, the Republican U.S. Senate candidate and a former transportation secretary, has promised to push for a federal law pressuring states to enforce such a measure. "Wouldn't that help them understand how important it is to be drug free?" Dole asked at a recent campaign stop in Washington, N.C. "It's not cool (to abuse drugs). It kills."

Then-President Bill Clinton proposed a nearly identical measure in 1996 while campaigning against Dole's husband, former Sen. Bob Dole, and offered federal grants to states the following year. Campaign officials for Elizabeth Dole said they were unaware of the Clinton initiative.

Dole included the pre-license drug test as part of her "Dole Plan for North Carolina" this year, proposing that teens who test positive must complete a drug counseling course and pass a subsequent test before getting a license.

The test could be bypassed. Parents who don't want their children to take a drug test could just say no and waive the requirement, said Mary Brown Brewer, Dole's communications director.

"You can't solely address illegal drugs from the supply side. You have to address it from the demand side," Brewer said. "When you turn 16, you look so forward to getting that driver's license ... This is a pretty strong incentive not to do anything that would prevent you from getting that driver's license."

Dole has made "less government" a campaign mantra, as have many Republicans, which makes it striking that she would embrace an invasive expansion of government duties and authority. Last year, nearly 62,000 N.C. teens got their first driver's license.

A spokesman for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said he was unaware of any states enacting such a program after the Clinton push.

Dole's opponent, Democrat Erskine Bowles, said he would like to talk with law enforcement officials, parents and teenagers before proposing such a measure.

The testing presents practical obstacles and legal questions. State motor vehicles administrations would suddenly face the costs of processing drug tests through a laboratory, not to mention the idea of testing youngsters who haven't been accused of anything. U.S. courts, though, have repeatedly upheld the constitutionality of drug tests.

Several states have zero tolerance laws on alcohol use, requiring that teens lose their license if caught driving with any of alcohol in their blood. The alcohol tests, though, are administered after a youth has been stopped on suspicion of drinking.

Substance-abuse experts said drug testing works as an incentive to keep youths from abusing drugs but likely only until they pass that checkpoint.

"Drug testing has always been a false promise that it would help us somehow by threatening people and make them stop so they wouldn't get into trouble," said John P. Morgan, a physician and City University of New York medical professor who has studied drug testing for 15 years.

He said the vast majority of positive drug tests detect nothing stronger than marijuana, and occasional smokers need only stop for a couple of weeks to pass.

Carl Shantzis, executive director of Substance Abuse Prevention Services in Charlotte, said prevention policy requires follow-up.

"Once teenagers get a license," Shantzis said, "the question is what kind of other incentives are there to keep them from abusing alcohol or other drugs."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
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1 posted on 10/31/2002 4:57:13 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
Right church, wrong pew. Instead of giving them a test they can get clean in time to take, tell teens you're going to suspend their licenses for 3 mo. for the first offense, six months for a second, and a year for subsequent offenses. I suspect that would work far better.
2 posted on 10/31/2002 5:00:09 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: Wolfie
These Drug Warriors are fighting a loosing battle, and they're too blind to see it.
3 posted on 10/31/2002 5:05:40 AM PST by Pern
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To: Wolfie
Why doesn't this silly statist broad just get it over with and put the chip in the hand or head?

If the REASON is good enough, any infringement on individual liberty by the state is not only legitimate and good, but REQUIRED for the "good" (as defined by those in power) of the collective. Just ask: Stalin, Hitler, Mao, or Jiang.

The drivers license argument is a red herring. Cant wait for all the statist vomit to come from the ignorant, intellectually vacant, emotional soccer mom, flag waving, brown shirt, useful idiot man-girls.
4 posted on 10/31/2002 5:07:25 AM PST by galt-jw
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To: Wolfie
< The march of government tyranny continues....

Presumed guilty until proven innocent; guilty of anything means guilty of everything forever until the end of time.

Excellent modern day Republican interpretation of basic Orwellian principles. This man's wife is highly likely to occupy a Senate seat for 6 years after next Tuesday.

With Republicans like these who needs DemocRATS?

Best regards,

5 posted on 10/31/2002 5:08:47 AM PST by Copernicus
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To: Copernicus
With Republicans like these who needs DemocRATS?

Quote of the day.

6 posted on 10/31/2002 5:11:23 AM PST by NEPA
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To: Wolfie
OK! Fair if there is drug testing for all those that win office for U.S. Senate.
7 posted on 10/31/2002 5:16:49 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Wolfie
I don't know... I always kind of chuckle when I hear these proposals for revoking a license for First we had DUI/DWI, then failure to pay child support, last year it was soliciting prostitution, now we have failing drug tests. The fact is, and I know from experience working in a county courthouse, that most people just continue to drive without a license. In fact I would say 75% at least. Some people do it just to spite the law, most though have no other choice -- Jobs. I realize this requirement is for first time applicants for drivers licenses, but I believe the effect would be the same.
8 posted on 10/31/2002 5:18:33 AM PST by apillar
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To: Wolfie
Elizabeth Dole wants to require all teenagers to pass a drug test before getting a driver's license.

Excellent idea, Liddy, but PLEASE tell me you're not favoring this at the Federal level.

9 posted on 10/31/2002 5:19:36 AM PST by Illbay
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Funny you should mention that. There was a State (I think it was Georgia) that passed a law requiring all candidates and potential judges to pass a urine test. As it happens, the U.S. Supreme Court finally found a case where they thought drug testing was unconsitutional, and struck it down. I guess it becomes too intrusive when they get around to testing your own.
10 posted on 10/31/2002 5:20:21 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Pern
It's a "losing battle" only in your own mind.

The "Drug War" is favored overwhelmingly by the populace. The fact that you and the other Libertines sit around muttering and moaning about it doesn't change that fact.

11 posted on 10/31/2002 5:20:35 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Wolfie
Not only is she a grabbing liberal RINO (replacing a conservative giant) but she's an irrational statist twit as well.

No wonder Darth Sideous refused to vote for her, and got banned for it.

12 posted on 10/31/2002 5:21:15 AM PST by AAABEST
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So Dole's proposing a federal law?

I sure am glad the GOP's running such a staunch conservative. < /sarcasm >

13 posted on 10/31/2002 5:22:38 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
Do you think the GOP really cares? Bigger Government is just fine as long its furthering their social agenda.
14 posted on 10/31/2002 5:24:05 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
Do you think the GOP really cares?

Not at all, so long as they're controlling the stick.

15 posted on 10/31/2002 5:24:47 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Wolfie
That's less government?
Nazi witch!
16 posted on 10/31/2002 5:27:34 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: NittanyLion
It's just one of the many "conservative" < /sarcasm > sides of the Pink Elephant Dolt's nature finally coming to light.
17 posted on 10/31/2002 5:35:26 AM PST by azhenfud
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To: Pern
Seen this The New Politics Of Pot yet?
18 posted on 10/31/2002 5:48:08 AM PST by philman_36
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To: NittanyLion
Here she is suggesting a State Law. Why isn't she running for the State Legislature?

I'm all for having a Republican Majority in the Senate, but likewise, so is Tom Daschle in favor of one for his own party. Therefore, we get Dole and Mondale. Talk about a blast from the past of failed ideas and characters.

The primary system is so full of poor results that we are stuck looking at candidates that defy common sense.

19 posted on 10/31/2002 5:49:05 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: KC Burke
No, she's promising to propose a Federal law to force the States to adopt this measure, no doubt by hanging Federal Highway Funds over the State's heads.
20 posted on 10/31/2002 5:50:47 AM PST by Wolfie
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