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Microsoft - Final Judgement
Slash Dot ^ | 11/1/02

Posted on 11/01/2002 12:58:16 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Finally! Microsoft will disclose their APIs to me!! I've been in the dark for so long...! </ sarcasm> Bump for Bill -- Bump for DOW.
21 posted on 11/01/2002 1:15:41 PM PST by Naspino
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Now this is strange. Fox is saying that this decision won't come out for another 15 minutes, at 4:30.
22 posted on 11/01/2002 1:15:46 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Nov 1, 2002

Decision in Microsoft Case Should Affect Computer Users - but Not for a While

By D. Ian Hopper
The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - A federal judge's long-awaited decision Friday in the Microsoft Corp. antitrust case could give new choices to computer users - or plunge the giant software maker into a lengthy period of creative hibernation.

Those are the opposite scenarios portrayed by Microsoft's rivals and company chairman Bill Gates. Microsoft's stock price dropped in mid-afternoon trading in advance of the ruling.

U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly said she will announce after the financial markets close whether she accepts or rejects a landmark antitrust settlement reached by Microsoft, the federal government and nine states. At the same time, she may say whether she endorses the harsher penalties pursued by nine other states who did not sign onto the deal.

But appeals are likely in a complicated case that has already lasted four years.

"It might not be resolved for another two years," University of Baltimore law professor Robert Lande said. "No one should count their winnings yet."

Microsoft was found to have violated antitrust laws, illegally maintaining its monopoly over computer software operating systems by strong-arming competitors. But an appeals court threw out a previous order that would break the company in two, leaving Kollar-Kotelly to decide how Microsoft should be punished.

The settlement would prevent Microsoft from participating in exclusive deals that could hurt competitors; require uniform contract terms for computer manufacturers; allow manufacturers and customers to remove icons for some Microsoft features; and require that the company release some technical data so software developers can write programs for Windows that work as well as Microsoft products do.

Justice prosecutors and Microsoft say the deal will immediately benefit consumers. Microsoft has already started complying with the deal by distributing technical data and releasing an update to Windows XP that permits the removal of Microsoft icons.

Some Microsoft competitors, such as Sun Microsystems, have told the Justice Department that Microsoft's compliance measures aren't adequate. Lawyers for the government and the settling states are investigating those complaints.

The nine states still suing Microsoft, led by Iowa, California and Connecticut, spent two months trying to convince Kollar-Kotelly that those penalties aren't enough to give Microsoft's rivals a fair chance to compete with the software giant, whose Windows operating system and productivity software run on over 90 percent of home and business computers.

Those states want Microsoft to divulge more technical information, give computer manufacturers more freedom in how they package Windows in their systems and allow users to completely remove some Microsoft features from Windows rather than just hide access to them.

Gates said during three days of testimony in the antitrust case that the added penalties would unfairly confiscate Microsoft's intellectual property, cause mass layoffs and force the company's research and development efforts "into a 10-year period of hibernation."

Microsoft's stock dropped over 2 percent to $52.28 on the Nasdaq exchange in Friday mid-afternoon trading.

The judge was announcing her decision just days before national elections. In three of the nine states that agreed to settle the case along with the Justice Department - Illinois, Michigan and Wisconsin - those attorneys general are running for governor this year, and two more active in the case are running for governor next year, in Kentucky and Louisiana.

In Connecticut, where Richard Blumenthal is one of the most aggressive attorneys general advocating harsher penalties against Microsoft, his re-election opponent accused him Thursday of being "obsessive" in his pursuit of the software maker. Martha Dean, a Republican, praised Microsoft as a successful business and said penalties against it could hurt the state's pension fund and citizens' retirement investments.

Under federal antitrust rules, Kollar-Kotelly does not have authority to change the terms of the settlement. She can approve the deal or reject it, although she can offer suggestions to lawyers to change the proposal in ways that would win her ultimate approval.

Lande predicted that the five-month delay between the hearings and the ruling could be good news for the suing states.

"If all she was going to do was rubber-stamp the settlement between the Department of Justice and Microsoft and say that the states get nothing, she could have done that in two or three months," Lande said. "I think it means the states are going to get something."

Since the federal and state cases are so intertwined and complicated, no one knows just what that something will be. Lande said Kollar-Kotelly's hardest job was to make sure that the settlement order and any added penalties don't send Microsoft mixed signals - particularly since Microsoft already has indicated that it plans to appeal to the Supreme Court if necessary.

"She wants to be really sure that there's no inconsistencies," Lande said. "Microsoft is going to appeal anyway, but one of the things they would say is that she's being inconsistent."

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On the Net:

Microsoft: http://www.microsoft.com

Justice Department: http://www.usdoj.gov

U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia: http://www.dcd.uscourts.gov

AP-ES-11-01-02 1459EST

23 posted on 11/01/2002 1:16:44 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
One thing of note at the beginning: Microsoft can no longer prevent OEMs from shipping dual-boot machines.
24 posted on 11/01/2002 1:16:49 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: MrConfettiMan
1) Microsoft can't screw over another company because the other company is selling products besides Microsoft's products.

2) Microsoft has to provide all of its distributers, etc. with the same deal. (i.e., no playing favorites).

3) Microsoft has to reveal its API used in Microsoft Middleware. (Imagine that Microsoft built a car with two gas tanks, and that Microsoft sold gas along with other companies. Gas tank A, only Microsoft knows about. Gas tank B, everyone else knows about. Gas tank A uses gas more efficiently while Gas tank B uses gas less efficiently. Users prefer more "efficient" Microsoft Gas.)

The rest deals with the details. I don't consider it too important.
25 posted on 11/01/2002 1:16:56 PM PST by Ardence
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To: San Jacinto
This is justice! This is Bill Gates beating the fishing expedition!

My 401(k) is going up, up, up!!!
26 posted on 11/01/2002 1:17:33 PM PST by hchutch
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To: Kerberos
It will take their lawyers a while to read through it. Remember the text above wasn't supposed to be available as quickly as we got it.
27 posted on 11/01/2002 1:17:49 PM PST by oc-flyfish
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To: Naspino
Hehe. Just last week I was asking myself, wouldn't it be great to peruse hundreds of thousands of lines of spagetti code?
28 posted on 11/01/2002 1:19:01 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Fox/Cavuto reporting "Slap on the wrist" for Microsoft. MSFT up 25¢ in afterhours.
29 posted on 11/01/2002 1:20:43 PM PST by Timesink
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To: SamAdams76
Well it must be good news for Microsoft as the Dow Jones shot up at the end of the session today (+125 points to over 8,500).
No relationship between the two since the market closed before the decision was announced. The jump was most likely in anticipation of the Fed lowering interest rates.
30 posted on 11/01/2002 1:20:51 PM PST by drjimmy
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To: Dominic Harr
It's all over but the crying ... you lose, Harr. All that effort for what? Disclosure of APIs? Giving OEMs leverage to sell other OSes (even though they won't)? IE is still part of Windows. MS wasn't broken up. And Java isn't on the table.
31 posted on 11/01/2002 1:20:54 PM PST by Bush2000
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Wait, make that $1.21.
32 posted on 11/01/2002 1:21:11 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Ardence
Why can't Microsoft still restrict access, hide APIs and set up questionable business practices under the guise of protecting "security, anti-virus, licensing, authentication and Digital Rights"?
33 posted on 11/01/2002 1:21:29 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Dominic Harr
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
34 posted on 11/01/2002 1:21:49 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Timesink
Good. I like Neal's perspective on things. These means we can finally build the economy again.
35 posted on 11/01/2002 1:21:50 PM PST by oc-flyfish
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
What sense does it make to force disclosure of APIs?

fosters more interoperability and competition.
36 posted on 11/01/2002 1:22:33 PM PST by plain talk
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To: oc-flyfish
"Remember the text above wasn't supposed to be available as quickly as we got it."

Well now fox is kind of back peddeling and saying that Microsoft will make a statement at 4:30. But Neil Cuvuto is saying that on the surface it looks like Microsoft is going to get out with just a slap on the hand. Just in time for the dems to use for election to prove that BIG corporations get away with anything.

37 posted on 11/01/2002 1:23:38 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: Timesink; Bush2000; Poohbah
Translation:

Multi-billion dollar waste fo time ona few minor violations. "It's really BS, but we gotta hit ya anyhow, so here's a slap on the wrist."

Yes!! My 401(k) is gonna be okay this next quarter.
38 posted on 11/01/2002 1:24:18 PM PST by hchutch
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To: Kerberos
Just in time for the dems to use for election to prove that BIG corporations get away with anything.

Nah... it's a way to show how the democrats/socialists tried to destroy a company and failed. Love live capitalism!

39 posted on 11/01/2002 1:25:18 PM PST by oc-flyfish
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To: Kerberos
Just in time for the dems to use for election to prove that BIG corporations get away with anything.

Nah. This will drive the market higher, which even the Dems want.

Clinton wasted the nation's time with this ridiculous anti-trust lawsuit.

40 posted on 11/01/2002 1:26:47 PM PST by sinkspur
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