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To: Hank Kerchief
Odd that the Catholics venerate the Shroud of Turin, an obvious fake and contradiction of the Bible, but are having a hissy-fit over this, which agrees with the Bible.

Odd that so many reject the Shroud despite the evidence that it is authentic but accept the Ossuary which doesn't prove any geneology at all. It's also humorous to watch the Protestant clamor considering that Calvin, Luther, Zwingli Wesley and many others all believed in, wrote and preached about the perpetual virginity of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Please provide those passages of Scripture that state the Blessed Virgin Mary gave birth to other children or that the "brothers" and "sisters" of Jesus are called the "sons and daughters" of Mary. The linguistic literalists get tripped up again.

20 posted on 11/02/2002 6:24:40 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Please provide those passages of Scripture that state the Blessed Virgin Mary gave birth to other children or that the "brothers" and "sisters" of Jesus are called the "sons and daughters" of Mary.

You know where it is.

If you think this is a, "Protestant," thing, go ask a protestant. I don't care what superstitions you want to hold. If it comforts you, more power to you.

Hank

21 posted on 11/02/2002 6:32:12 AM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
The Bible clearly states that Jesus was Mary's firstborn son. It also goes on to state regarding her husband, Joseph, "He had no sexual relations with her before she gave birth to her son." - Matt. 1:25 (From the God News Bible, Imprimatur: John Francis Whealon, Archbishop of Hartford. In other words, a "Catholic" Bible).

The NIV has it as "But he had no union with her until she gave birth to a son." (Emphasis mine).

The King James Version has it as "And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son:" (Again, emphasis mine).

There are other verses that can be cited as well, but the point is that if Mary had taken some sort of vow of virginity, then by allowing Joseph to marry her she would have been contemptuous of the holy covenant of marraige. Even the Catholic church does not allow a wife to take a vow of continence at her own pleasure. The Bible is also clearly against it, declaring that the marriage bed is God's will for married couples (Genesis 1:28; 2:21-24; I Corinthians 7:3-5) and that it is honorable in all (Hebrews 13:4).

Sorry, but the myth of Mary's perpetual virginity doesn't hold up to scripture.

22 posted on 11/02/2002 7:13:37 AM PST by Pablo64
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