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To: thinktwice; DoctorMichael
And, I see no disagreement between Rand and Descartes in the "I think, therefore I exist" department.

There is a problem, however. Logically (metaphysically) existense precedes both consciousness and the unique human consciousness capable of thought. Epistemologically, the concept of existense, that which we are conscious of, precedes concepts that could question it. If the concept of existense itself is questioned, there is no epistemological basis for doubt, which is a negation of assertion. If nothing is asserted, there is nothing to doubt. If nothing exists, there is nothing to question. To question existense is an example of the "stolen concept" falacy. Existense, not just the concept, must be assumed to question it.

Hank

204 posted on 02/02/2003 3:58:21 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief; thinktwice
.......existense precedes both consciousness and the unique human consciousness capable of thought..........Existense, not just the concept, must be assumed to question it..........

Therefore: "I am, therefore I think".

............which is the opposite of Descartes' famous philosophical aphorism: "I think, therefore I am".

209 posted on 02/02/2003 4:45:19 PM PST by DoctorMichael (Liberals SuK; Liberalism SuX)
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