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Colleges openly embracing gay students
Newark Star Ledger ^ | 11/4/02 | Kelly Heyboer

Posted on 11/04/2002 8:46:22 AM PST by Incorrigible

Colleges openly embracing gay students

N.J.'s Drew cited as most accepting

Monday, November 04, 2002
BY KELLY HEYBOER
Star-Ledger Staff

[Princeton, NJ] -- The Alliance, a campus support group for gay students, meets each week. University celebrations of National Coming Out Day are held each fall. Seminars titled "Everything You Wanted to Know About Being Gay But Were Afraid to Ask," are conducted in the freshman dorms.

Welcome to Drew University -- the most accepting college in the nation for gay and lesbian students, according to a recent survey by the Princeton Review.

The Madison campus took the top ranking this fall in the national student survey, edging out Boston University, Wesleyan, Wellesley and Vassar. Drew officials said they welcome the distinction, but do not expect to see the ranking in the private university's recruiting materials anytime soon.

"We try to be welcoming to all students. Diversity is a big thing here," said Tom Harris, a Drew spokesman. "But we almost never use those rankings for marketing."

While Drew will not tout itself as "No. 1 for Gay Students," a handful of colleges across the nation are starting to market themselves specifically as campuses that welcome homosexual students. Schools from San Jose State to Brown and Harvard have slowly begun targeting their recruiting efforts at the increasingly visible gay and lesbian student market.

Some schools, including California's San Jose State University, are featuring gay students prominently in their recruiting brochures. Others, including American University in Washington, D.C., have carefully cultivated a reputation among high school counselors as being comfortable for gay students.

In a move that got national attention this spring, recruiters from nearly 40 New England colleges, including Harvard, attended a first-ever college fair for gay and lesbian students in Boston. Even the Journal of College Admissions, the bible of college admissions officers, featured an article on its cover this month about recruiting gay students.

Dea Nelson, publication coordinator for San Jose State's enrollment services office, said inquiries from openly gay students, their families and high school counselors have caused colleges to take notice.

Nelson said she has seen a significant increase in attendance at seminars she hosts on the topic at annual conventions for college admissions officers.

"I noticed the first few years they were not all that well attended," Nelson said. "That has really evolved over time. I do see the trend is there."

San Jose State is often cited as a pioneer in marketing to gay and lesbian students. After years of slipping references to gay life into its recruiting publications, the state university became one of the first schools in the nation to prominently display a rainbow flag and to profile a gay student in the so-called view books describing the institution sent to prospective students.

To Nelson's surprise, no one complained or objected to including gay students in marketing materials. Several students, including one international student from Malaysia, said they applied to San Jose State specifically because the school's view book made it seem like they would be welcome, Nelson said.

However, colleges say it is hard to statistically measure how effective marketing to gay students has been because it is impossible to get an accurate count of how many homosexual students are on campus.

For years, gay and lesbian students have been choosing colleges based on word of mouth or the visibility of gay and lesbian groups on campus. But with the students coming out at earlier and earlier ages -- and with parents becoming increasingly accepting of their children's sexual orientation-- colleges have begun to get questions about gay life on campus.

Last year, the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network , based in New York, published a college guide for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transsexual students. The first printing of the pamphlet, titled "Finding an LGBT-Friendly Campus," disappeared almost immediately as students, parents and counselors snatched it up.

"There was a need," said Mary Kate Cullen, the group's public policy director. "Over the past seven years, the number of students out in high school has increased tremendously. ... More teachers, parents and counselors are aware of these students and their needs."

Cullen said gay students who have come from supportive high schools expect a similar atmosphere at college, while homosexual students who have felt harassed or unwelcome at home or high school look for a college where they can be accepted.

The education network recommends lesbian and gay students gauge a college's "friendliness" by asking how many openly gay students, professors and administrators are on campus and whether there are gay-studies courses or majors offered.

Students also should ask whether there are support services for homosexual students and whether the campus has active clubs and student organizations for gay and lesbian students, Cullen said.

John Saul of Florham Park said he was not specifically looking for a gay-friendly campus when he applied to Drew University in the mid-1990s. But, much to his relief, Saul, a biology major, found the 2,400-student liberal arts college welcoming.

"I basically had come out within the first two months I was here and I never had any problems," said Saul. "It's basically a non-issue. ... People don't worry or think about it."

Saul, who graduated in 1999, stayed on campus to work in Drew's academic technology office. He also serves as adviser to the Drew Alliance, the campus gay-straight group.

The Alliance, which has about 20 active members, holds weekly meetings and organizes events, including last month's Coming Out Day panel and dinner. Jennifer Royer, the group's co-president, said the atmosphere at Drew is welcoming enough to attract students from neighboring Fairleigh Dickinson University to the Alliance's meetings.

The group also welcomes straight students at its events and makes a point to never ask anyone's sexual orientation, Royer said.

"It's such not an issue here," Royer said. "When people go out in the real world, that's the problem."

Kelly Heyboer covers higher education. She can be reached at kheyboer@starledger.com or (973) 392-5929.

Not for commercial use.  For educational and discussion purposes only.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: alliance; comingoutday; drewuniv
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I wonder what would happen if students at these universities wanted to start a "straight alliance" club?
1 posted on 11/04/2002 8:46:22 AM PST by Incorrigible
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To: Incorrigible
Oh yes. I've studied at three campuses. And anyone who has been to a university JUST KNOWS that homosexuals are grossy under-represented in the student body and faculty. I mean, you can look and look and never, ever find a sign of 'em. I swear.
2 posted on 11/04/2002 8:54:45 AM PST by pollwatcher
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To: Incorrigible
I thought colleges wanted students with high intellectual potential. Why the emphasis on their sex lives at all?
3 posted on 11/04/2002 8:59:18 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: Incorrigible
I doubt that colleges welcome the distinction; in fact, while they tout the "gay tolerant" line at their diversity fairs and what-not, the label will hurt their overall numbers, and they know it.

How many straight kids are looking for a "gay-friendly" campus? Why would they? Most straight kids will avoid that kind of environment because they will naturally gravitate to campuses where they feel that the other students share values and lifestyles in common, it's human nature.

Even considering the over-inflated stat of 10% of the population being gay, consider how this reduces their pool of potential students!!! My bet is that the administration at Drew College is collectively cringing and dragging out the old vitaes for dusting off.

4 posted on 11/04/2002 9:01:41 AM PST by PLK
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To: Incorrigible
I wonder what would happen if students at these universities wanted to start a "straight alliance" club?

Simple. Those who want to start a "straight alliance" club would be branded as hateful, homophobic, evil people who are intolerant of other people's rights. Of course, they don't take into account our rights to walk down the street without constantly being reminded of how sick and perverted these people are. They don't take into account our right to raise our children to be responsible people with high moral standards, without forceful exposure and indoctrination to this kind of behavior at a young age.

But what do I know, I am a hateful, homophobic, evil man who isn't allowed to speak my mind in public. After all, it might upset someone and feelings would get hurt.

5 posted on 11/04/2002 9:05:31 AM PST by SaveTheChief
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To: RAT Patrol
5 years ago, my daughter received a video tape from MIT that showed 2 guys hugging talking about how "accepting" the campus was!
6 posted on 11/04/2002 9:09:40 AM PST by SwinneySwitch
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To: Incorrigible
There are always people who want to be different. If being "gay" gets you attention, they are gay.
7 posted on 11/04/2002 9:12:08 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: Incorrigible
"Everything You Wanted to Know About Being Gay But Were Afraid to Ask,"

Don't want to know, period!

8 posted on 11/04/2002 9:12:29 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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I thought colleges wanted students with high intellectual potential. Why the emphasis on their sex lives at all?

Homosexuals, being natural conspirators as a group, make excellent recruits for any organization dedicated to subverting a country's institutions. The recent scandals in the Catholic Church and the saga of the Cambridge Communists in Britain underscore this point.

9 posted on 11/04/2002 9:13:28 AM PST by Loyalist
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To: SwinneySwitch
I graduated from MIT in the '70's. Even at that time, there was a "Student Homophile League" on campus.

I remember that they had a mixer once in the Student Center. The administration had initially declined to allow it, on the basis that the majority of students on campus might feel inhibited from using the center (which contained a heavily used library) during that time. However, they relented when a student survey showed that the straight students really didn't care. The mixer went off without incident, especially remarkable because the drinking age was 18 at the time and alcohol was being sold at the mixer. The student and faculty at MIT have never given a rip about colleagues' sexual orientation, at least not since that time.

In fact, I knew a few of the members, as they and I were members of the MIT chorus. They encouraged me to go. I declined. One of them invited me to a party later on. I went, only to find out that I was the only invitee. When my host took his clothes off and started dancing, I left! A couple of these guys had problems distinguishing between straight guys who just wanted to be a friend, and guys who were gay and in the closet.
10 posted on 11/04/2002 9:20:30 AM PST by RonF
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To: Incorrigible
This open marketing to homosexuals (in my view there is nothing "gay" - a perfectly good old English word -- about homosexuals) is also having an opposite effect: students who do not want a queer roomate or the queer agenda shoved down their throat are voting with their feet: example my daughter, who is a senior in high school, was being heavily recruited by several of the womens colleges, but, after speaking to friends and friends of friends who had had negative experiences at Wellesly, Smith and Mt. Holyoke, she has refused to look at any of the womens colleges, even though they have combinations of programs which are very attractive to her.
11 posted on 11/04/2002 9:35:44 AM PST by CatoRenasci
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Drew is a messed up place. The sad thing is that the head of the College is the former Republican Governor of New Jersey, Tom Kean. Damn RINO.
14 posted on 11/04/2002 10:04:17 AM PST by FBDinNJ
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To: FBDinNJ
Another in the long list of reasons not to send your kids to a government supported school. It's not about education, it's about socialization.
15 posted on 11/04/2002 10:46:42 AM PST by aardvark1
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To: Incorrigible
But with the students coming out at earlier and earlier ages

What is this, the kids not getting over the cootie phase?

16 posted on 11/04/2002 11:01:12 AM PST by Chemist_Geek
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To: aardvark1
Actually, almost all the schools mentioned on that list are private schools, as is MIT. They do accept government contracts. However, they get no direct subsidies from the government for academics (unlike state schools such as University or University of ).
17 posted on 11/04/2002 11:41:08 AM PST by RonF
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To: aardvark1
I have had direct involvement with MIT, Harvard, Smith, Mt. Holyoke, Wellesley, and BU. I went to the first, and I've either had relatives attend the rest, or people that I've known very well. I can assure you that education, not socialization, is tops on the list in all those schools.
18 posted on 11/04/2002 11:43:00 AM PST by RonF
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To: CatoRenasci
Your daughter would see flyers for the gay/lesbian support groups up on campus in the same locations she'd see flyers for other groups. She'd read about their activities in the school newspaper along with the activities of other groups. There'd probably be an annual mixer in the fall, and a spring rally. Other than that she'd no more have the "gay" agenda shoved down her throat than she would the "square dancing" agenda. And if it turned out that she had a lesbian roommate, and found it intolerable, she would be able to get switched into a different room.

I say this based not on my experience from 30 years ago, but from the fact that my daughter attends a fairly liberal campus in the Boston area, and this is what she reports. Open homosexuality is certainly accepted more on campuses than in the general American culture, but she doesn't see it being "shoved down her throat". OTOH, the campus she is on is not one of the women's colleges. There's a lot more heterosexual sex than homosexual sex going on on her campus.
19 posted on 11/04/2002 11:51:16 AM PST by RonF
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To: Incorrigible
In fairness they should be recruiting students into bestiality, sadism, pedophilia, etc. After all, what gives them the right to discriminate based on sexual preference? Shouldn't a guy be able to bring his steady sheep to the homecoming dance?

Sheesh.

20 posted on 11/04/2002 12:01:43 PM PST by jimt
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