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Future of migration accord in doubt after GOP victory in U.S. elections
The News (Mexico City) ^ | November 7, 2002 | Michael O'Boyle

Posted on 11/06/2002 11:31:30 PM PST by sarcasm

Following the Republican's victory in U.S. midterm elections, Mexico will relaunch its efforts to clinch a migration accord, but analysts doubt either U.S. President George W. Bush or a conservative U.S. Congress will accede.

Officials from the Foreign Relations Secretariat on Tuesday said Mexico would renew efforts to strike a deal with Washington to regularize millions of Mexicans living illegally in the United States and expand legal opportunities for the tens of thousands who slip across the Mexico-U.S. border each year.

In a Monday television interview, Foreign Relations Secretary Jorge Castañeda said the end of the volatile political atmosphere of the U.S. elections allows for a new attempt to reach a deal.

Starting Tuesday, "we will begin to work very hard to convince the U.S. government a migrant accord is indispensable," Castañeda said.

Castañeda said the next few weeks would be crucial to see if Bush and his administration show any signs of willingness to take up negotiations again.

Early in Bush's administration, a migration deal between the two nations seemed likely, but following the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, Mexico has slid off Washington's radar.

Fox began his term with an aggressive push to secure a far-reaching migrant accord. His most ambitious hope - amnesty for illegal migrants already living in the United States - long has been considered dead in the water, but a new temporary worker program or an increase in the number of legal migrants per year still are seen as possible components of a deal.

However, after Tuesday's elections, which gave Republicans control of the U.S. Congress, the possibility of any migrant accord has been pushed off the table, said Rafael Fernandez de Castro, director of the journal Foreign Affairs En Español.

"Democrats had every intention of pushing a deal forward, but now we are in the hands of Bush," Fernandez said. "The personal relationship between Fox and Bush is tapped out. We can't expect that to play for anything. Most worrying, Bush may be angry with Fox and Castañeda for not supporting his war with Iraq."


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To: FreedomFriend
I have no explanation. According to the color chart there are two waves of population movement. One is from soughtern California north. The other diffuses out from the Texas Border.
81 posted on 11/07/2002 5:10:31 PM PST by RLK
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To: FreedomFriend
I'd vote for him as would my family!
82 posted on 11/07/2002 6:40:03 PM PST by doglot
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To: IllegalAliensOUT
revolt? Why, he isn't any different than his Dad.

House Majority Whip Rep. Tom Delay sponsored a bill to prohibit the wearing of a U.N. uniform by U.S. service personnel. This bill was a reaction to the case of U.S. Army soldier Michael New, who had refused to wear a U.N. uniform and was court-martialed and discharged for bad conduct by Clinton.

Such a bill was considered unnecessary under President Bush because he – and the Republican Party – had made it absolutely clear that he would never order U.S. troops to serve under U.N. command. "I will never place U.S. troops under UN command," candidate Bush said in his speech at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, Simi Valley, California, November 19, 1999. The 2000 Republican Party Platform declared that "…American troops must never serve under United Nations command."

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LLNews/message/2890

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83 posted on 11/07/2002 7:22:05 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: FreedomFriend; Tancredo Fan; sarcasm
Call for Deportations

I support deportation 100% but we still have to do something about the border to keep the pest from getting back into the U.S.

84 posted on 11/07/2002 11:38:45 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: sarcasm
Sheer propaganda written for sheeple. You'll find the amnesty tucked into one of the bills they pass within the next 3 months, I'd guess. Bush is a NWO globalist, third-way aristocrat for all of his "down-home" facade.
85 posted on 11/08/2002 12:29:47 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Bikers4Bush
ten thousand a week is only 520,000 per year. most reliable estimates put it at 1.7 mil a year and up.
86 posted on 11/08/2002 3:28:59 AM PST by johnboy
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To: johnboy
That's probably the number crossing the border and would count the over and backers.

To be 1.7 a year we'd be looking at 32,000+ new illegals a week and there's no way the number can possibly be that high. The likelyhood that 4,500 new illegal aliens a day could make it across the border is pretty slim.

Mind you one a day is one too many for me but I just can't believe that such a large number of new illegals is making that trip daily.

87 posted on 11/08/2002 4:52:30 AM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: Bikers4Bush; johnboy
Only johnboy. He misread the article (missed the 's' in 'tens of thousands).

Who said ten thousand a year?

88 posted on 11/08/2002 5:23:04 AM PST by Psycho Francis
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To: Brownie74
I support deportation 100% but we still have to do something about the border to keep the pest from getting back into the U.S.

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Build a 30 foot high wall. It's easy to do. It's no different than a superhighway turned on edge. Razor wire on the top of the wall. Man the wall with toweres and guns.

89 posted on 11/08/2002 5:44:05 AM PST by RLK
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Mexican-based press with analysis that shows they are in deep caca with the border situation

Many of the Mexican newspapers don't hide the control Mexico intends to have over the US. Here's one article about the Mexicans elected to Congress in the US:

Al Congreso, par de hermanas mexicanas

...."las hermanas Loretta y Linda Sánchez, demócratas de California, de origen mexicano." from http://www.diario.com.mx/secciones/eu/nota.asp?notaid=15947
El Diario Juarez

90 posted on 11/08/2002 11:43:16 PM PST by FITZ
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I'll post more of that article (basically gloating about the Mexicans winning over their American-Republican opposition):

Loretta Sánchez, de 42 años, fue elegida por primera vez a la Cámara de Representantes en 1996 por el condado de Orange, California, derrotando por el exiguo margen de 984 votos a uno de los republicanos más combativos de ese cuerpo, Bob Dornan, veterano de Vietnam, quien cuestionó el resultado sin éxito. Posteriormente Sánchez ha sido reelegida dos veces sin mayores dificultades.

Su hermana Linda, abogada de 31 años sin experiencia política previa, conquistó el martes para los demócratas la curul por el distrito número 39 de Los Angeles, derrotando al también novato republicano Tim Escobar, con 55% contra 41% de los votos.
91 posted on 11/08/2002 11:47:44 PM PST by FITZ
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Crece la fuerza del voto hispano

http://www.diario.com.mx/secciones/eu/nota.asp?notaid=15945

“Tengo la responsabilidad de darle a los hispanos una fuerza que nunca han tenido”, dijo Richardson en declaraciones a emisoras hispanas en Estados Unidos, tras conquistar la gubernatura de Nuevo México (sudoeste), que cuenta con el mayor porcentaje de hispanos registrados para votar de Estados Unidos (39%).

“Somos una comunidad que debemos unirnos, que debemos tener un peso político”, dijo Richardson, hijo de madre mexicana, que fue embajador de Estados Unidos ante la ONU (1997—1998) y secretario de Energía a mediados del segundo mandato de Bill Clinton en la Casa Blanca.

In this article they're discussing their growing strength in votes in the US. They seem especially pleased with Richardson (son of a Mexican mother) winning in New Mexico.
92 posted on 11/08/2002 11:54:33 PM PST by FITZ
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Here is AltaVista's attempt at the translation of Spanish text. It kinda makes sense.

"How Universal Thursday 07 of November of the 2002 Washingtons will hit the result to Mexico Jose Carreño/Corresponsal. The republican victory leaves to president Bush with freedom of action and the site of the relation with Mexico in its agenda will depend on its will and the priority that assigns to them, considered analysts and experts.

At least one, the academic Robert Leiken of the Nixon Center, warned that although the victory of Bush fortifies its position and gives free hands him in the politician, had to a great extent to the impact of the attacks of the 11 of September of 2001, that at the same time are the reason of the American resistance to an agreement that implies the legalization of illegal immigrants.

As twenty of Muslim extremists kidnapped on that date four passenger airplanes and sent three of them against the twin towers of New York and the Pentagon in Washington, to cause about 3 thousand dead and direct or indirect damages by more than 600 billion dollars. Its action created an enemy counterattack to the immigrants in general and the undocumented people in individual.

But the regularización of the situation of Mexican undocumented people and a new migratory agreement with the United States is a priority of president Vicente Fox, remembered John Bailey, of the University of Georgetown. "Both subjects are difficult in normal times, but now that the Republican Party controls both cameras an initiative of this magnitude is easier that with divided control", it added. In that frame, which happens with Latin America, Mexico and the bilateral agenda, even migration, is now responsibility of Bush and the republicans, indicated Terry McAuliffe, president of the Democratic National Committee. With the Congress into the hands of the party of the president, the importance of those subjects "is going to depend on the will of the president".

Sounds like a helpless "wait and see" to me.

93 posted on 11/08/2002 11:59:54 PM PST by Newkid
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To: FITZ
Would you go to numbersusa.com and on the right hand side, put your arrow on the catergories and when the President comes up click on it. There is an article about what he thinks of the borders, and it says he does not believe in open borders. I could not believe it when I read it, but numbers would not have it there, I do not believe if it was not true. thank you
I do not know how to do these kind of things,
94 posted on 11/09/2002 12:08:03 AM PST by calawah98
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To: calawah98
I think most of the immigration mess was created under Clinton and the Mexican government also has much to do with it. Bush inherited a mess left from the Clintons and a Mexican president who has few ideas on how to fix his country. I'm not for our government hunting down every last illegal, dragging farm workers out of fields and door-to-door searches looking for illegal domestic workers and I could support a guest worker program which seems to be something Bush is looking at. I think the criminals dealing in stolen Social Security numbers and drug runners need to be treated harshly but some illegals working for cash are working in jobs that Americans don't want.
95 posted on 11/09/2002 12:29:40 AM PST by FITZ
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To: A2J
Bush will kiss my vote goodbye if he even mentions such foolishness as granting legal status to illegal immigrants.

Oh, sure. Sure he will. He's got the conservatives trapped, and he knows it. Who ya gonna vote for, Hillary?

Bush will do it because he's whipped the Dems and because he's the real deal, a Gilded Age economic royalist, and the avatar of William McKinley. Deep in his heart of hearts, he believes that all skills except management should be discounted to minimum wage, and only the big dogs around the boardroom table should get paid. After watching him a while, I've come to that conclusion, that he's all for Old Money, like Phil Gramm was, and everyone else can go to hell.

Which is what our Dirtbag Ex-Felon-in-Chief is counting on.

Guys, we're screwed. Jammed, and screwed.

96 posted on 11/09/2002 3:20:07 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
Oh, sure. Sure he will. He's got the conservatives trapped, and he knows it. Who ya gonna vote for, Hillary?

Never would I vote for Hillary but neither would I pull Bush's lever if he's insistent on the immigration issue.

I would rather vote for a strong conservative/Republican House and Senate who would be more responsive to this issue than Bush has shown himself to be.

97 posted on 11/10/2002 7:21:17 AM PST by A2J
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