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To: mostlyundecided
It is not beyond the realm of possibility that certain elements of the American militia movement are linked with Middle Eastern terrorism. (I know little of Mark Koernke or his beliefs.) The anti-Jewish rhetoric of some militia groups, particularly those with white separatist or Anglo-Israel leanings, is very similar to that heard from the militant wing of Islam. Both the white separatist/Anglo-Israel crowd and the Muslim militants see "world Zionism" as their common enemy. There is some evidence that suggests that Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols had connections with Middle Eastern terrorists. Some have speculated that the "John Doe II" seen with McVeigh was a Middle Easterner. As I recall, both McVeigh and Nichols were associated with militia groups in Michigan.

Suppose you were a leader of a Muslim terrotist organization trying to disrupt the United States. Your main native born allies are American blacks who have become Black Muslims. (Given John Muhammed's access to large amounts of cash and frequent travel, I suspect that he was recruited into the network of Middle Eastern terror.) Yet, with the exception of a handful of converts like Jose Padilla or John Walker Lindh, Islam has not significantly penetrated the white and Hispanic communities. The most natural ally for the Middle Eastern terrorists among whites would be disaffected white racists and anti-Semites who are enthralled with conspiracy theories that paint powerful Jewish interests at the center of webs of worldwide intrigue. Their theories are basically the same as those espoused by radical Islam, having the same roots in such late 19th Century works as The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. For these white racists to ally with the non-Aryan Arabs is no more contradictory it was for the Nazis to ally with the non-Aryan Japanese.

I am opposed to governmental restrictions on private ownership and possession of firearms and radio equipment. I recognize that the Feds regard the militia groups as the primary enemies of the State and have dealt with them far more harshly than they have with Muslim terrorists, eco-terrorists, or minority group militants. However, this raid on the home of an already imprisoned militia leader may be prompted by legitimate national security concerns.

12 posted on 11/07/2002 7:05:59 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.
This is a case of "kick em' when they're down" which is a favorite Gubmint tactic. I really don't think the Michigan Militia is involved with the Muslims.
30 posted on 11/07/2002 8:27:01 AM PST by dljordan
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To: Wallace T.
As I recall, both McVeigh and Nichols were associated with militia groups in Michigan.

False. That was the leftist media spin, so I can see why you are confused. But in reality the Michigan Militia refused to allow MeVeigh to become a member because of his extremist views. Morris Dees admitted that fact on CNN's Talk Back Live, even though Morris is quick to lump anyone to the right of McGovern as an extremist.

The anti-Jewish rhetoric of some militia groups, particularly those with white separatist or Anglo-Israel leanings.

There are two types of so-called "militia groups" in America: (1) those who claim to support and defend the Constitution (labeled "Constitutional" militias), and (2) supremists (white and black).

White Supremists are the white equivalent of the Black Panthers or Black Muslims. Both hate Jews, and, general speaking, Black Muslims want all whiteys dead, and White Supremists want all blackeys dead.

Constitutional Militias allow members of all races in their ranks, including blacks and jews. The Commander of the Georgia Constitutional Militia at one time was a Jew. The South Carolina Civilian Militia claimed two black officers in the mid 90's. And J.J. Johnson, the former Commander of the Ohio Militia, is black, and has been a long-time national spokesman for the Constitutional Militia doctrine. The federal government recognized his role in the militia movement by inviting him to testify before Congress in the mid 90's. His most famous statement before the congress was (paraphrased) "I am sick and tired of the media calling me a white supremist". J.J. Johnson Enterprises, Inc. publishes the Sierra Times.

36 posted on 11/07/2002 8:46:49 AM PST by PhilipFreneau
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