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Why Did The Democrats Lose?
NA | Yooper

Posted on 11/07/2002 4:03:04 PM PST by yooper

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To: TLBSHOW
...democrats are stupid commies and evil!

I know some stupid Democrats and some stupid Communists but they are mutually exclusive.

Bill Clinton is evil. He sold the soul of the Democratic Party to special interests whose interests were self-serving and without staying power. The Democratic leadership became Clinton clones with all of his baggage. What this election has shown quite clearly is that without his hands on the levers Clinton has no value anymore...he is just an empty suit....he was always an empty suit but most Democrats in 1991 were too afraid of President Bush to take him on. Clinton got the money and the crooks took over the Donkey.

If those of us in the liberal wing of the party can't get the party back we have no one to blame this time except ourselves for letting the charlatans bamboozle the public for more than 15 years...if we have another bozo who wants to smooze at Hilton Head this winter he better not expect to win more than a brass hat formerly used for a spitoon.

If we can't dismantle the Clinton 'mystique' now then we will never do so. Hilary and Bill forced Andrew Cuomo out of the race for Governor and hand picked Carl McCall. Frankly speaking I like Carl and he is a good man and a decent human being...and he was told not to wrap the Clinton mantle about him...but the Clintons draped themselves anyway. Would Andrew won against Pataki? No...and Carl would have done better without Carville/Clinton/Chucky.

That said this is a great opportunity for the Democrats to regroup and stand up for what gave us years of governance in the tradition of Harry Truman and Hubert Humphrey. We can still represent the working class even though 'labor' is dressing pretty well these days.

Why did we get our butts kicked? We deserved it for pretending the Clinton years were valuable. Payback has arrived and it will cleanse the party of the despicable trash that litters our halls. This was good medicine for the Democrats and we will recover and restore some dignity to the Donkey. We have some old fashioned Democrats who have managed to savage the Illinois Republican Crime Syndicate and if the old guard like the Daleys, Cuomos can forget they ever slept with the Clinton gang we will come out of this very well...Tom Harkin should replace Dippy Daschle and if Nancy Pelosi gets to be Minority Leader then I want an invitation to the cat fight cause the loser will be Hilary...marketh my words. And pray with me that my wishful thinking is rewarded.

61 posted on 11/07/2002 5:50:21 PM PST by harrowup
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Horrible, hateful editorials written by liberals in the newspaper just a couple of days after 9/11, saying that we got what we deserved. Most of our country was dazed and reeling with shock and grief and these idiots show a strange disconnect from the rest of us. Yes, it is a free country and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but don't ya think they could have waited just a little bit longer to express it and with a little less glee?
62 posted on 11/07/2002 5:59:59 PM PST by k omalley
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To: yooper
Two words: Bill Clinton. His continued presence (the man just refuses to leave) managed to motivate far more Republicans to go to the polls than demonRATs.
63 posted on 11/07/2002 6:31:42 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: yooper
They lost because they did not have a strategy to win. Bush beat the war drums prior to the election. This was the major focus of the country for the month before the election. This was a very calibrated political maneuver by Bush and it worked.
64 posted on 11/07/2002 6:44:46 PM PST by blueriver
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To: Chuck N
And the democrats worship on one thing...only one thing is sacred to a democrat...ABORTION. It's their golden calf, they worship abortion.

I'm not so certain about this statement in this area...when Gore was campaigning here for election 2000, the pro-lifers protested everyone of his 3 appearances...MOST of the protestors were D's and the bishop was present..

65 posted on 11/07/2002 6:45:51 PM PST by Bella
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To: The KG9 Kid
Wow, you did a GREAT job on this post #27. I haven't read further on the thread yet, but want to mention:

1. That was no funeral... it was the Plane Crash Jamboree. Anyone not a hopeless Clintonite who watched it saw it in either that gut-wrenching light or saw the scary reminders of Hitler's rise.

2. The RNC and Racicot deserve a great deal of kudos for their focussing on "Get Out The Vote" efforts in the competitive states and funding those efforts.

66 posted on 11/07/2002 7:11:05 PM PST by AFPhys
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To: yooper
"Why did the Democrats lose?"

First off, that is not the real question, the question should be: Why did any democrats win? The answer, after careful analysis and comparisons of the facts of life against the democrats delusional fantasy view of reality is: Sanity is on the up swing and inanity is in a slump. Despite the intentional attempt to dumb down America, it seems that somehow Americans have a gene that at least partially immunizes them against stupidity. It is called the "fool me once, shame on you-fool me twice, shame on me gene. Sometime the genes are so weakened that rather than kicking in at the ,Fool me twice point, they dont kick in until the, fool me two hundred times point-but when they kick in they kick in and it becomes contageous to the point of effecting every American who is not in a coma. THey have kicked in. And the Liars shall be kicked in too- kicked in their arses!

67 posted on 11/07/2002 7:11:19 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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To: yooper
I've been wanting to say this for a long time, so here goes:

Many factors played a part in the long overdue dim meltdown. Among them are 9/11 or how popular Dubya is or the fact that the dims offer no reason to vote for them.

But I think this repudiation has been building in the hearts of the American people for at least two years.

It started with Florida. No matter how many times the dims have said that Dubya was "selected" and an illegitimate president etc., the American people were there and they know which side tried to hijack the 2000 election.

This attempted hijacking pissed us off and 2002 was the first time the American people had a chance to punish those who gave us 36 agonizing days of lies, obstruction and pre-meditated confusion, based on nothing but their lust for power.

We can read the Constitution and we understood when we read passages concerning no changing the rules after so many days before an election - in Florida the dims wanted to change the rules after the election. And we also understand equal protection concepts - if you are going to recount, you don't just recount in the counties that favor you, but in all the counties.

We also read Florida state statutes and Katherine Harris followed Florida law to the letter. It was the liberal Florida Supreme Court that tried to change the rules she was following - again, after the election.

And then we were told - just wait until we can recount these ballots with the liberal media in charge. Well, the subsequent recounts - supervised by liberal newspapers - still showed GWB as the winner.

And after all the allegations about blacks being disenfranchised in Florida, not one person would testify to that under oath despite serious pressure from the Jesse Jacksons and Mary Frances Berrys to do so.

So for the last two years, every time they sneered at GWB as the illegitimate president and whined "we wuz robbed" - I would say, "thank you - just keep it up." And then finally, in their arrogance and blindness, the dims provided the last straw in New Jersey where they treated NJ election laws like "suggestions" instead of rules.

Americans don't want leaders who ignore the rules or try to change them after the game is played. Those of us who were liberal in our twenties know that "the people didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left the people" - and they still are.

68 posted on 11/07/2002 7:34:50 PM PST by Let's Roll
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