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Why Doug Forrester, R-NJ, LOST and LOST Badly
11.07.02
| Rick Shaftan
Posted on 11/07/2002 4:19:30 PM PST by Coleus
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posted on
11/07/2002 4:19:30 PM PST
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Coleus
To: agrace; Alberta's Child; Antoninus; Atticus; BeforeISleep; Betteboop; bioprof; Black Agnes; ...
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posted on
11/07/2002 4:21:58 PM PST
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Coleus
To: jern
for a later read....
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posted on
11/07/2002 4:23:02 PM PST
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jern
To: All
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posted on
11/07/2002 4:34:24 PM PST
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Coleus
To: Coleus
The Dem in Nothern Maine is pro life. The Pub pro choice. Guess who won.
Had the pub been pro life, he would have won. They were both cookie-cutter so that made the difference.
Those who are pro life are not tied to a political party. If the Dems have a good candidate who is pro life he has a good chance of winning.
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posted on
11/07/2002 4:45:36 PM PST
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KeyWest
To: nutmeg
bump
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posted on
11/07/2002 4:46:12 PM PST
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nutmeg
To: Coleus
Forrester was no prize from what I saw of him, and I should know turkeys with Simon here in CA folks! LOL
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posted on
11/07/2002 4:47:53 PM PST
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A CA Guy
To: A CA Guy
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posted on
11/07/2002 4:59:51 PM PST
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Coleus
To: Coleus
Forrester lost because THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE They BROKE THE LAW, and the poor pathetic residents felt it didn't matter & elected Lousenberg. There is NO OTHER REASON. Everything AFTER the fact means NOTHING.
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posted on
11/07/2002 5:03:52 PM PST
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Puppage
To: Coleus
I have relatives in NJ and NY that ARE Tony Soprano and I won't have ANYTHING to do with them. All with connections to the Teamsters Union by the way.
I avoid them like the flu. FORGETABOUTIT~
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posted on
11/07/2002 5:11:47 PM PST
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A CA Guy
To: Puppage
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE>>>
I can agree with that and what happened is criminal. But is was a Republican Chief Justice, Deborah Poritz, Whitman appointee, who heard the case and all the rupublicans on the court voted for the Lause to run.
Here is where the criminal activity began, all lead by a republican.
http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/supreme/index.htm
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posted on
11/07/2002 5:36:06 PM PST
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Coleus
To: Coleus
Much that is true in the article, a lot of specifics arguable. The nut of Forrester's loss was that he had built a lead pointing out Torch's criminality, which was too much even for NJ. Once he had no Torch to run against, from what I saw of Forrester, he had NOTHING to run on, no platform of what he supported, and zero ability to shift gears from anti-Torch to pro-Forrester.
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posted on
11/07/2002 5:40:15 PM PST
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barkeep
To: Coleus
In NJ, the Democraps and the RINOs (Whitless, Putzhead, DiFiasco, etc.) are all Socialists! There isn't a micron of difference between them.
To: Puppage
The Demo win because they OWN the Unions! Any other questions?
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posted on
11/07/2002 5:43:00 PM PST
by
Afronaut
To: Coleus
The NJSC is a democratic entity. Hardly, republican. Do you really think Justice Coleman is a republican? Regardless, they legislated from the bench. It was illegal & should not have been allowed.
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posted on
11/07/2002 5:44:13 PM PST
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Puppage
To: Afronaut
The Demo win because they OWN the Unions! Any other questions?>>>>
That's an understatement.
Democrats=Unions=Organized Crime
Democrats=Unions=Most Public Employees
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posted on
11/07/2002 5:48:39 PM PST
by
Coleus
To: Puppage
It still sounds like Forrester was not a very good candidate. From down here in Texas, I assumed that Forrester would have gotten a bigger "outrage bump" from conservative Republicans and Reagan Democrats after the Democrats' switcheroo.
Based on the article, however, it appears that conservatives didn't seem to care a whole lot about Forrester after the Torch was gone. Evidently he wasn't a very inspiring candidate. He sounds kind of RINOish, actually.
(Anyone could have beaten Torch. And it really does sound like a better candidate would have beaten a liberal old crank like Lautenberg. After all, Coleman beat Mondale.
Hopefully, we Republicans have learned something here. Manifestly, the NJ Republican Party should not nominate guys like Forrester in the future. [Come to think of it, the California guys need to do a better job in the primaries, too. Simon got close, but a better candidate would have creamed Gray Davis.])
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posted on
11/07/2002 5:50:08 PM PST
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the_doc
To: Puppage
I think Lautenberg won mostly due to simple name recognition. "The Poor Pathetic Residents" of NJ knew his name from somewhere, probably thought he was the incumbent.
Gotta love 'em - they're too busy fighting traffic and attending their union meetings to pay much attention to politics.
To: barkeep
Once he had no Torch to run against, from what I saw of Forrester, he had NOTHING to run on, no platform of what he supported, and zero ability to shift gears from anti-Torch to pro-Forrester.I'm just a dumb ole Texas boy, but Forrester sounded so scripted that he came across as a human encyclopedia, regurgitating facts but with no emotion.
I'm not surprised he wasn't able to connect with New Jersey voters. He reminds me of my nerdy cousin, who knows everything except how to talk to his kids when they come to him with a problem.
They call me or my wife, because they know we'll listen and not try to "fix" their problem.
It would have helped if Forrester had been pro-life; it would have helped even more if he had exhibited some warmth as a human being.
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posted on
11/07/2002 5:53:27 PM PST
by
sinkspur
To: the_doc
a better candidate would have beaten a liberal old crank like Lautenberg. Maybe they should have pulled Forrester out of the ran with 4 days to go and put in Rudy Guiliani? Too, late for that....not a resident of New Jersey? What should THAT matter? After all..Lousenberg was allowed to be a candidate when THE LAW said he couldn't. What's good for the goose.....
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11/07/2002 5:56:35 PM PST
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Puppage
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