The Christian Testimony of Condoleezza Rice

The Layman, October 2002, via Rice2008.com ^ | October 2002 | Condoleezza Rice, Ph.D

[billbears]

Interesting info. As a Southern Baptist I never knew that. Thanks

[luckystarmom]

I think it is PC USA. I used to go to the same church. It's a great church with a great minister. We moved too far south to still go to it. Plus it is a very large church, and we wanted a smaller church for our family.

It is a very Christ centered church with great Bible studies.

[luckystarmom]

This church is not a feel good and light on Jesus. It is very Biblical based church, and I'm pretty sure it was anti-abortion. I know most of the women in my old Bible study were. I never heard any sermons on contraception.

I know the minister loved to call his church a "hospital for sinners".

They also sent out lots of missionaries to places like China and the Phillipines.

[Libertina]

For a lovely, intelligent woman...
Christian Condi BUMP!

[HoustonCurmudgeon]

The reply's to this wonderful post make me thank God that He accepts my multiply prayers for forgiveness every day. The lady is not now, and never has sought elective office, but some here attack her thoughts. I will pray that she comes to understand the true evil that abortion is.

I will also ask Jesus to give me patience for the judgmental people who make me glad that I am a right wing Christian and yet not a member of the Christian Right!

[2sheep]

I'm surprised your parents allow you to have computer privileges.

[CyberAnt]

I have been to the Menlo Park Presbyterian Church. Wow! It's a great church - or at least it used to be.

[luckystarmom]

Here's the website:

http://www.mppc.org/who_we_are.jsp

I agree that it is a great church. I haven't been in many years, but it had a great minister Walt Gerber.

It says a lot for Ms. Rice that she attended that church.

[B-Chan]

My pleasure.

[B-Chan]

PCA? PCUSA? Reformed Presbyterian? I get them mixed up. I admit I can't tell which Presbyterian church is Bad and which one is Good, but I do know that there are good Christians in all of them -- some of whom suffer under the rule of outright heretics. I have nothing against Presbyterians; it's just that practically every time I see a Presbyterian minister on TV they're talking about "diversity" or "inclusiveness" instead of about Jesus. From now on I'll assume that such people are members of the Presbyterian church that is outside the pale of orthodoxy -- whichever one that is!

FYI: We Catholics are taught [CCC, 838] to recognize all those who believe in Christ and are validly baptized as being fellow Christians (albeit Christians in imperfect communion with the true Catholic Church).

[fatguy]

What are the likely reasons that Rice, Culter, and Noonan are all single at their age?

[fatguy]

I appreciate that Rice, Culter and Noonan have done heavy lifting for the GOP, but are these unmarried, attractive, middle-aged women:

• Like the nuns from past generations?

• Workaholics who are unbalanced and hollow?

• Not attracted to men?

• What else?

[B-Chan]

I haven't the foggiest notion. "Too busy to look" would be my guess. I tend to discount the "closet lesbian" hypothesis; in today's world of Jerry Springer and tabloids, when a public figure is gay, word always gets around. Was Elton John's "coming out" any surprise? Rosie O'Donnell's? Ellen DeGeneris'? If Dr. Rice were a lesbian, I'm almost certain we'd know it by now. She's pushing fifty.

I do know a few thirtyish-fortyish hetero single gals. From what I've heard, they find it difficult to meet quality guys who share their values and ideas. "I don't go to bars, and I won't date people I work with. The only place left to meet decent men is at church -- and all of them are are either already married or celibate!" Add to that the time squeeze of a big-shot career and you've got a recipe for spinsterhood.

Sure, they could be homosexual. So could the guy next door with three kids. Until I have some evidence to go on besides old-maidhood, it's "hetero until proven homo" as far as I'm concerned.

[luckystarmom]

Well, since I was a member of Menlo Park Presbyterian for about 5 years, I'll tell you what I know. They are loosely connected churches. They each have their own personality. I visted another one in San Jose that was having a lesbian speak and was very liberal. I never attended that church again.

I think MPPC is fairly mainstream conservative church. After five years, I never heard anything strange coming from the pulpit. It was all good strong Christianity.

[lady lawyer]

If you were comparing one of your Italian relatives to a high-profile Italian, she probably wouldn't be insulted at all.

I must point out, however, that when the majority of black children are born out of wedlock, it would appear that very high standards are less prevalent among the group than the group might wish.

[lady lawyer]

BTW, I consider my daughter in law exceptional among young women of any color. She is just an outstanding person, who happens to be black, like Condie Rice.

[Celtman]

Aw, please, not the Trilateral thing... that's so '70s...

      Those who do not understand history are doomed to repeat it.  Of course, to really understand what's going on, you have to go back further that the 70's. 

[Celtman]

B-Chan:
most Baptists do not consider their denomination to be Protestant

katana:
As someone raised Baptist and now belonging to the Disciples of Christ denomination, I'm curious to know where you picked up that little tidbit.

      Most Baptists don't spend a lot of time or words on the subject, but consider their churches to have preceded, and to be older than, both the Roman Catholic denomination and the Protestant reformation. 

lonestar:
I also think there are many different denominations that are called "Baptists." Missionary Baptists are quite different from Southern Baptists. I thought "Baptist" referred to those who believe in immersion baptism.

      Close.  There are a number of different Baptist groups.  I have belonged to GARBC and BBF Baptist churches.  But not all churches which restrict baptism to immersion call themselves Baptist - e.g., Disciples of Christ, Church of God (Anderson, Ind.), Brethren, Assemblies of God, ...

[B-Chan]

Most Baptists don't spend a lot of time or words on the subject, but consider their churches to have preceded, and to be older than, both the Roman Catholic denomination and the Protestant reformation. 

That squares with what Baptist friends and relatives have told me. Of course, they're completely wrong...

[B-Chan]

None Dare Call It Conspiracy.