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To: wardaddy; All
Um, I'm not sure when this turned into a gun grabbers forum, but I don't like where this is going. It's pretty tough when you have to fight with conservatives for gun rights.

So a guy was carrying a gun? So what? That's part of life. People don't get to not carry guns just because you don't like the looks of them.

This situation is a gun grabbers wet dream: "Oh my gosh, he had a GUN! In his hand! It was big and scary and it had bullets! Oh, gosh, if only the Government could come and take away all those big bad scary guns, we wouldn't have to see them anymore!"

By the way, I always carry a gun with me, so do me a favor and don't call the police on me, all right? Then again, I'm white, so you probably won't.
41 posted on 11/08/2002 3:56:11 PM PST by Viva Le Dissention
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To: Viva Le Dissention
Today...my common sense outweighed my feverent RKBA motivations.

And before you flame back with the race card, I will confess that had it been a group of white guys from the set of Resevoir Dogs sitting their fondling their guns I would have felt just as alarmed.

These were not deer hunters, or range guys. They looked like bangers with guns in their laps backed into a parking spot in front of a 7-11.

Once I saw them and their guns, there was no way I was going back by their open window....that would have been utter idiocy ...FMCDH notwithstanding.



81 posted on 11/08/2002 4:21:53 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: Viva Le Dissention; Shooter 2.5; Squantos; archy
Good grief, what moronic comments.

Are you familiar with the MAC-10? I am VERY familiar with it. VERY. If the bolt is back and a mag is inserted (as Wardaddy saw it was) that sucker is in the shoot right now mode. NOBODY carries an open bolt slam gun like that unless they are getting ready to fire RIGHT NOW.

MACs are no longer made because it's a joke to convert them to full auto. A MAC with the bolt back over a loaded mag ten feet from me on a convenience store parking lot would get me to do a Carl Lewis jump over the nearest wall or hedge without a nanosecond of pondering my options.

92 posted on 11/08/2002 4:30:40 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Viva Le Dissention; wardaddy
"This situation is a gun grabbers wet dream: "Oh my gosh, he had a GUN! In his hand! It was big and scary and it had bullets! Oh, gosh, if only the Government could come and take away all those big bad scary guns, we wouldn't have to see them anymore!" By the way, I always carry a gun with me, so do me a favor and don't call the police on me, all right? Then again, I'm white, so you probably won't."

Yeah...do you and your buddies back up to 7-11's, then sit around with your guns for all to see.....MOST gun owners are responsible....would be interesting to know if the guns wardaddy saw were "legal," if you get my drift. (If they weren't, it's just more ammo for gun owners AGAINST the gun grabbers....)

94 posted on 11/08/2002 4:32:14 PM PST by goodnesswins
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To: Viva Le Dissention
This situation is a gun grabbers wet dream: "Oh my gosh, he had a GUN! In his hand!

You forgot the sarcasm tags right?

By the way, I always carry a gun with me, so do me a favor and don't call the police on me, all right?

Brandishing in a parking lot rates a 911 call.

98 posted on 11/08/2002 4:33:41 PM PST by CPOSharky
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To: Viva Le Dissention
It was a bunch of banger looking types in a pimped out van who had them unholstered. Its right outta a hood movie.
121 posted on 11/08/2002 5:00:59 PM PST by weikel
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To: Viva Le Dissention
Oh, aren't you CUTE? We're all SO impressed with your b.s., dear.
189 posted on 11/08/2002 5:50:52 PM PST by MightyMouth
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To: Viva Le Dissention
By the way, I always carry a gun with me, so do me a favor and don't call the police on me, all right? Then again, I'm white, so you probably won't.

HorseHillary! What you are doing in a round-about way is call him a racist because these thugs were black. If you don't see anything wrong with 3 or more obvious gang bangers sitting outside a store with at least 1 Mac-10 in plain sight,there is something wrong with your perceptions. EIther that,or you realize this and are just playing the race card.

192 posted on 11/08/2002 5:52:13 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: Viva Le Dissention; wardaddy
"So a guy was carrying a gun? So what? That's part of life. People don't get to not carry guns just because you don't like the looks of them."

You have GOT to be kidding. Did you read the same article I did? I suppose you wouldn't have bothered the gangster Clanton's either for carrying guns and plotting to kill the Earp brothers. If looks like a Crypt, dresses like a Crypt, is armed like a Crypt...

Wardaddy...well done, well handled...you got big ones.

216 posted on 11/08/2002 6:30:10 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: Viva Le Dissention
Um, I'm not sure when this turned into a gun grabbers forum, but I don't like where this is going. It's pretty tough when you have to fight with conservatives for gun rights.

These guys were obviously up to no good. The guns were only part of it. They exhibited several supicious behaviors, for example they were parked backwards, and were just "hanging", rather than going in the store to buy something. Now if these guys were not criminals, the cops, if they could find them, would just verify that and move on. In an ideal world anyway. In most states, including Tennesse, they would have arrested them for illegal cary of a firearm, which as you point out should not be a crime. In the absence of any unconstitutional "gun laws", these particular fellows probably would have been arrested for open warrents, if nothing else.

222 posted on 11/08/2002 7:21:17 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Viva Le Dissention
Um, I'm not sure when this turned into a gun grabbers forum, but I don't like where this is going. It's pretty tough when you have to fight with conservatives for gun rights.

I'm not inclined to disagree with you...so given the circumstances, assuming most mac-10's are not carried in that manner unless preparing to fire, and given the fact that you would have been armed, what would you have done? Business as usual assuming they would also mind their own business?

Seriously now, the original poster asked and it's something we all potentially face. What would you do?

225 posted on 11/08/2002 7:36:26 PM PST by HetLoo
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To: Viva Le Dissention
Um, I'm not sure when this turned into a gun grabbers forum, but I don't like where this is going. It's pretty tough when you have to fight with conservatives for gun rights. So a guy was carrying a gun? So what? That's part of life. People don't get to not carry guns just because you don't like the looks of them. By the way, I always carry a gun with me, so do me a favor and don't call the police on me, all right? Then again, I'm white, so you probably won't.

Get a frickin clue. A Mac-10 that fires from an open bolt as a carry piece? Yeah. And my concealed carry piece is a double barrel coach-gun. You just don't know what you want to be, do you?

229 posted on 11/08/2002 8:04:46 PM PST by Woahhs
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To: Viva Le Dissention
Oh come on, be real!!

Carrying box cutters onto a 747 wasn't illegal on the morning of Sept 11 either, but maybe if someone had noticed and reported it .....

If we're going to have a civilized society, we have to give the police the benefit of the doubt. If you see something suspicious, report it and let them decide what, if anything, they can legally do about it.

If I'm a law-abiding citizen legally carrying a weapon, I don't care if every liberal in town calls the cops. I'll say "Good evening officer and here's my permit"

But anybody who's thinking with his brain instead of his ideology would know that those fellows in the 7-11 parking lot were up to no good and that a friendly visit from the men in blue would be a damn good idea.

My only criticism of our correspondent's actions (and it's admittedly 20-20 hindsight) is keep your phone in your pocket.
281 posted on 11/08/2002 10:41:00 PM PST by JPandin
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To: Viva Le Dissention
By the way, I always carry a gun with me, so do me a favor and don't call the police on me, all right? Then again, I'm white, so you probably won't.

If you're sitting in your backed-in car in front of a business establishment - and one that is frequently robbed - holding a loaded Mac while your homies branish other rigs, I'll call the cops on your stupid ass in a heartbeat. It appears you have difficulty understanding context.

And btw, your playing of the race card would make the likes of A. Sharpton and J. Jackson proud.

352 posted on 11/09/2002 9:55:19 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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