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This column has so many logical fallacies I don't know where to begin.
1 posted on 11/10/2002 8:14:50 AM PST by zapiks44
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To: zapiks44; Landru
Horseshit. George Bush has al-Qaeda and a low turn-out to thank for his victory.

Eh, for a national journalist, his language skills are limited to the vernacular, eh?

2 posted on 11/10/2002 8:16:59 AM PST by Happygal
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To: zapiks44
Horseshit. George Bush has al-Qaeda and a low turn-out to thank for his victory.

He has a point, but it was Bush's actions that made him a winner last Tuesday. He went all out a declared a war on terrorism and then followed through. Had a Democrat been in power, there would have been some limp-wristed response and the Dems would have lost last week even bigger.

3 posted on 11/10/2002 8:20:42 AM PST by Always Right
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In the meantime, depite it's flaws, give thanks to the European Union for partial shelter from the conservative storm


Oh man, does this statement get under my skin...this is such a slap in the face to Americans in general...How many time have we had to save their sorry-ass stinkin' liberal butts?...and how many time more? The idea that they are looking for gratitude for this liberal, America hating mindset they have is just beyond words that I can express...Lord have Mercy!
4 posted on 11/10/2002 8:25:42 AM PST by dagoofyfoot
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What Britain needs is a couple of boat loads of Betty Crocker cookbooks, and a fleet of 747's loaded with dentists.
6 posted on 11/10/2002 8:28:08 AM PST by ampat
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I'm afraid he has some points. He does miss one key point, however. One of the reasons Bush did so well is that the democrats no longer can rely on the Kremlin for instructions, direction and tactics. Sure, many/most of the dems still BELIEVE as much as they always did but they have failed to adapt and, without the party guidance, just aren't as capable as they once were. Now, Pelosi is a card carrier from the old days and will certainly lead the dem faithful to new heights of anti-Americanism. But, without the commie Kremlin calling their every move, the dems just don't seem to have it any longer.
7 posted on 11/10/2002 8:28:27 AM PST by Tacis
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"...they want to construct a republic of 'moral', god-fearing citizens who adhere to traditional virtues, rewarding the rich who can only have become rich through the virtue of hard work and penalising the poor who are only poor because of their own fecklessness."

Oh, would that it were true, would that it were true, Will.

8 posted on 11/10/2002 8:28:53 AM PST by Mortimer Snavely
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Even the euro-libs start acting loony when USA libs are out of power. Could it be that they fear the ripple of conservatism washing up on their shores? I would love to see another Reagan-Thatcher like axis reappear.
10 posted on 11/10/2002 8:32:34 AM PST by Movemout
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"This column has so many logical fallicies I just don't know where to begin."

Not to mention factual errors. The guy doesn't have a clue!

VietVet
11 posted on 11/10/2002 8:34:10 AM PST by VietVet
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Nor are the majority of Americans social conservatives and closet racist


Well, I guess according to this limp wristed, brittish fag, conservatives and biggots are one in the same. I don't understand why a$$ holes like this don't use their soap box bash Islamic extremism instead of our country that trying to defend itself against homicidal zealots!
12 posted on 11/10/2002 8:34:16 AM PST by dagoofyfoot
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As I recall, the Brits nearly stepped into the Civil War on the side of the Confederacy because the latter had the cotton their mills so desperately needed. Apparently it was okay for British industry to support the "slavemongering" South when said support evolved to their commercial benefit. And my, what a difference a century makes!
13 posted on 11/10/2002 8:35:57 AM PST by IronJack
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When the electorate voted locally, the Democrats had the edge, winning governorships in four of the biggest industrial states - Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan

Bullshit, dumbass.

Both sides were mad in Michigan. Dems were mad since they lost the AG, SoS, 3 marginal GOP congressional seats, and couldn't control the state senator or state house. Repubs were mad since they lost the governor seat.

BTW - The English backed the confederacy, so you can shut the hell up you limey. Makes me glad my bloodlines are Irish.

14 posted on 11/10/2002 8:38:47 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
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Will Hutton seems to be an escapie from the Raving Nutters Party. He was probably their mascot Nutter.

He ripped off so many absurdities that I cannot begin to list them all in this space. He seems to have mentioned all of the dimocrapic talking points about eeeeviiilllll conservatives in one column, no mean feat in itself.
17 posted on 11/10/2002 8:39:47 AM PST by jimtorr
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What he also fails to mention is that perhaps the reason Georgians care so much about their Civil War dead was that their state was the site of William T. Sherman's infamous "March to the Sea". Sherman remains today one of the most hated, if not THE most hated, man in the South.

But, anytime people in the south start talking about honoring the hundreds of thousands of Confederate dead, including soliders, men, women, and children, people cry "racist!" or "Slavery-supporter!". It's one of the best examples of PC run amok. I say: Let the flag fly! (And I''m a Minnesotan, that now-former stronghold of liberalism)

And you make a good point of how the British leaned toward the Confederacy.

19 posted on 11/10/2002 8:43:10 AM PST by zapiks44
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Another left-wing wacko that doesn't have a clue...wow !!

GWB Is The Man !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Let's Roll !!

Molon Labe !!
20 posted on 11/10/2002 8:44:50 AM PST by blackie
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"The stranglehold the far Right has now taken on America will make it a more divided, reactionary and illiberal country"

To diagnose a liberal or a Rat one must first ascertain whether they are advocating a positive policy approach to a problem. If this is absent, then one looks for ad hominem attacks. If these are present your diagnostic schema is complete. You have either a liberal, a Rat or both.

It never fails to amaze me that people like this author make outrageous character judgments and, then, congragulate themselves on a job well done. It does not take much to call a man a SOB in so many words.

22 posted on 11/10/2002 9:15:20 AM PST by shrinkermd
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Suffice to say...

What can one expect from a "SUBJECT"?

23 posted on 11/10/2002 9:36:42 AM PST by Publius6961
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From this article, at least we know where the American Left gets their marching orders. . .
24 posted on 11/10/2002 10:04:20 AM PST by spald
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Hmmmm... Is that a high pitched whine I hear from across the pond?

The far Right , hardly. How about a non-liberal thought process versus an illiberal country. The people exercised their right to elect their leaders in a democratic fashion, whatever the criteria. If you don't like it, oh well. Maybe the people of Georgia tired of the pussified, planless Dems. If they want the Confederate battle insignia on their state flag, so what?
America not a happy place? Says who?
A minimalist social contract? Amazing. This from a man whose country worships an inbred family because...why? He lives in a country that still practices primogeniture! Not that I need to educate the people in this forum but primogeniture is the practice of awarding positions of power to men by BIRTHRIGHT, not by accomplishment.i.e. The House of Lords.
Where in the hell does he get a liberal silent majority in this country. It is the Conservative silent majority that finally spoke up last Tuesday.
Anytime I hear someone mention the mass(es) of America or anyplace else for that matter, it sends up a RED flag on my radar. I'm sure he was despondent when they removed the statue of Lenin from Red Square.
The high water mark of conservatism? You ain't seen nothing yet! Again a liberal cries but has no answers.
Oh, and we'll be sure that our missile defense program doesn't protect your street, you commie. Good luck with the EU.

Hail to the Chief
25 posted on 11/10/2002 10:06:28 AM PST by conservativemusician
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To me, the key phrase in this odious essay is "the far right."

Who here, excepting those not yet sober from last night, would call the contemporary Republican Party or President Bush "far right"?

I admire President Bush, and I'm glad he has a majority in Congress to work with -- at least I'm glad for now; we'll have to see what comes of it -- but he's a few millimeters right of center at most. In the realm of domestic policy, his most conservative act to date has been the tax cut. His prosecution of the anti-terror campaign is simple, nonideological patriotism.

The Left has a tactic that it employs repeatedly, and which, with the collusion of the media, never fails to work. It keeps redefining "moderation" to include more and more of the social-welfare-fascist agenda, then denounces any deviation from those positions as "extremist" and "far right." This is in keeping with its "evolving standards" notion. Of course, it's the ideologists on the Left who are the self-anointed keepers of what constitutes "moderation;" no one else is allowed a say.

There are many commentators in Europe that can't stand the ongoing American repudiation of socialism, neosocialism, and welfare fascism. They see it as a slap in their own faces -- and in a sense, it is. They're subconsciously ashamed of their poor economic performance, their timidity in the face of movements and migrations of persons hostile to Western values, and their unwillingness to take up arms in any cause, however obviously right and necessary. They mask their shame with expressions of derision and contempt toward us, as if it were difficult to see through the rhetoric to their envy and self-loathing.

The Old World might have reached its terminus at last. We're watching it implode under dirigiste economics, self-inflicted military irrelevance, and the inability to bar immigrants hostile to its norms. Given our relative positions in the world -- free, powerful, prosperous America vis-a-vis shackled, impotent, threadbare Europe -- there's no reason to take anything their envy-mongers say seriously.

For further thoughts, please see:

The Continent Of Brass

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit the Palace Of Reason: http://palaceofreason.com

26 posted on 11/10/2002 10:09:40 AM PST by fporretto
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Well I hope he wants the Union Jack discarded. After all the British were allies with the Confederates, and so were part and parcel of 'defending slavery' as the author puts it. Why is it the Union Jack is not being targeted as a symbol of 18th century oppression. A lot more people were oppressed by the British in their empire periods than were slaves in the USA.
27 posted on 11/10/2002 10:10:38 AM PST by Jack Black
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