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To: Austin Willard Wright
Yeah, right? What's up with that? Here you have a guy who enlisted into the Army to fight the Germans during WW II, and ends up being trained by the military to be a super soldier. Yet he suddenly develops a problem with killing bad guys? Even when he has to? Even when they're genocidal madmen? Did I miss something, because that just doesn't sound right. That Steve Rogers guy must've been real damn naive if he thought he'd be able to fight the Germans without actually killing any of them (And he enlisted without knowing that he'd become Captain America, so he must've expected to have been issued a gun with which he's supposed to shoot the enemy).

Even AFTER he becomes Captain America, the guy was STILL trained by the military. They sure as hell didn't teach him not to kill the enemy. So what the hell happened?
43 posted on 11/12/2002 7:42:02 AM PST by Green Knight
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To: Green Knight
What happened? It was all during Watergate and the anti-Vietnam war stuff so the writers decided to have Captain America "reconsider" the anti-Communist (but not anti-Nazi) aspects of his past. Interestingly, Ironman went through a similar "soul-searching" during the period and decided to stop manufacturing munitions as a result!

Eventually, Marvel comics even ran a series "explaining" the anti-Communist Captain America comics of the 1950s. Their explanation was that the 1950s Captain America was an imposter (as was the 1950s Buckey) who perverted Captain America's anti-Nazi legacy by becoming a pro-McCarthy red-baiter.

141 posted on 11/12/2002 10:07:53 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Green Knight
There's discussion of a controversial retrofit to the history of Captain America going on now.

Some author is trying to introduce a storyline of black "guinea pigs" who were given early test samples of the "super soldier serum" ala the syphilis observations in the Tuskegee Experiment.

This is a wrongheaded way to examine such issues.

156 posted on 11/12/2002 10:26:43 AM PST by weegee
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