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Researchers say red wine reduces risk of Alzheimer's Disease - Beer doubles risk
AFP via Babelfish translation ^
| November 12, 2002
Posted on 11/12/2002 10:20:34 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: Vidalia
But what about whisky, or sterno juice, or gasoline, or...? or dirty bath water.
To: HAL9000
consumed beer each month presented twice more risks to be touched than those which drank any never or very seldom. That would be Irish Alzheimers. We never forget our grudges:)
To: FreedomPoster
But according to the study, they are more likely to remain sane. Maybe the winos have been sneaking beer on the side. Could be the formaldehyde in the Mad-Dog though.
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posted on
11/12/2002 10:53:54 AM PST
by
Jaded
To: gov_bean_ counter
Is Mad Dog 20/20 considered a "wine product"? No more than Boones Farm
To: HAL9000
The interesting thing about this is that it must be something in the wine, and the beer, other than the alcohol, which determines these effects. Find out what it is, and avoid the, presumably, bad stuff in beer, and take supplements of the, presuably, good stuff in wine. Although a small amount of ethanol seems to be good for you also.
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posted on
11/12/2002 10:57:12 AM PST
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El Gato
To: mhking
(hiccup) I'd like to propose a toast.........now, if I could only remember where I put my booze
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posted on
11/12/2002 11:08:00 AM PST
by
Dallas
To: El Gato
Good observation. Since the study points to red wines, and not white, my first guess would be tannins in the grape skins, since red must is fermented with the grapes before pressing (allow everything in the skin and pulp to soak into the must), and white must is fermented after pressing (which occurs right after crushing for whites).
Also, wort is boiled, then chilled, prior to fermentation. Must is not, and it is fermented alot longer (and slower) than wort.
Wine also contains a higher proportion of sulphites, but if it was sulphites, it shouldn't matter wether its red or white.
Could also be that fruit and fruit products are better than grain and grain products.
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posted on
11/12/2002 11:22:07 AM PST
by
jae471
To: El Gato
it must be something in the wine It might be the demographics of wine drinkers vs. beer drinkers causing the difference. For example, if you study cigar smokers you will find that they live longer than non-cigar smokers. It isn't a substance in the cigar, it's that cigar smokers tend to be wealthier and can afford a more relaxed lifestyle with better health care.
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posted on
11/12/2002 11:23:58 AM PST
by
Reeses
To: HAL9000
[sigh]
Once again worthless junk offered up as science via the abuse of statistics.
It could just as easily be said "Living in Sweden causes a 4.8% chance of going insane."
There is a huge difference between associative elements (things are are related) and elements that are cause. This smells of a researcher looking to drum up support for more grant money.
To: HAL9000
To: HAL9000
Merci!
To: HAL9000
Beer causes insanity?
Beer goggles pretty much proves that research.
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posted on
11/12/2002 11:39:56 AM PST
by
hattend
To: Destructor
Makes you wonder if the Germans will bring out an article saying beer makes you smarter and wine causes insanity.
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posted on
11/12/2002 11:41:58 AM PST
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tdadams
To: HAL9000
This is pure garbage. I know oldsters (over 80) , some that drink Early Times whiskey every day, and some that don't drink any alcohol. It's up to the individual genes!!
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11/12/2002 11:43:14 AM PST
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timestax
To: HAL9000
So does red wine actually reduce the risk of Alzheimer's or has the drinking of red wine been correlated with a lower instance of Alzheimer's? Big difference - correlation does not imply causation.
To: Destructor
Hey, the French aren't wine producers, are they? No conflict here...
Does anyone else find it a little odd that the article is printed in French?
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posted on
11/12/2002 11:56:44 AM PST
by
GOPJ
To: fnord
"Holdez-vous mon merlot" is the phrase I believe you're looking for.
To: timestax
Wine makes you "laid back" beer makes you "rowdy" most of the stories that we find funny on this list, involve beer drinkers. One could say on the outside looking/watching how it would seem beer drinkers are touched with the insanity.
To: HAL9000
"Hold my beer. Pass the Merlot."
To: tdadams
I'd look for it any day now.(chuckle)
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