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Terrorism Has 'Everything To Do With Islam,' Author Charges
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 11/13/02 | Marc Morano

Posted on 11/13/2002 3:35:07 AM PST by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - President Bush wasted no time, following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, in exonerating Islam and reminding Americans that the violence had been committed by freedom haters. Islam, the religion the terrorists claimed to represent while carrying out their attacks, actually stood for peace, the president insisted.

Fourteen months after the attacks, the 19 hijacker/terrorists are still considered heroes by certain elements of the Islamic community around the world.

A would-be shoe bomber, Richard Reid, and an alleged would-be dirty bomber, Jose Padilla, have seen their attack plans foiled in the U.S. since Sept. 11, 2001. But the accused Beltway Sniper, John Muhammad, and his alleged teenaged accomplice John Malvo, are believed responsible for a multi-state shooting spree that culminated in the killings of ten people in the Washington, D.C., region, before they were captured.

Reid, Padilla, Muhammad and Malvo all had one thing in common - a devotion to Islam.

Robert Spencer, author of Islam Unveiled and an adjunct fellow at the conservative think tank Free Congress Foundation, believes Islam's theological foundation is creating many of today's terrorists and would-be terrorists.

Spencer's book takes a critical look at the religion of Islam, its holy book, The Koran, its prophet Muhammad and concludes that the religion is producing violent behavior in a significant numbers of its adherents.

"The religious motivation [for terrorism] is paramount for millions of these people and if we don't recognize that, we are going to be ill equipped in the face of what we are up against," Spencer told CNSNews.com.

Spencer believes the U.S. is not prepared to fight a war on terrorism because the nation fails to understand the true nature of Islam.

"[Our leaders] are intent on insisting that terrorism has nothing to do with Islam, when it has everything to do with Islam," Spencer said.

"When you are in a conflict and you don't know the true nature of your opponent, you are at a tremendous disadvantage," he added.

According to Spencer the "mainstream interpretation" of the religion of Islam is responsible for violent behavior because the text of the Koran has many passages inciting followers to violence.

"When the Koran says, 'Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them,' the extremists can point to that and many other verses of that kind and say: 'Look, this is what the religion teaches,'" Spencer said.

Moderate Muslims are "in the unfortunate position of saying: 'No that is not actually what it means,'" and can be "easily portrayed by extremists as being the disloyal party, the ones that don't take the Koran seriously," he added.

Moderates have a difficult time explaining away verses that incite violence because Islam teaches that the Koran was dictated word for word by Allah (God), according to Spencer.

"Muslims teach the Koran is the literal words of God in a stronger sense than Christianity believes the Bible is the word of God ... the Koran is more than inspired, it is dictated, it is actually God speaking. There is no human element," Spencer said.

"The moderates who might be fighting against Islam's dark side, have the disadvantage of having to go against the plain words of the text of the Koran," he said.

"There is no theological or geographical or denominational or any other kind of firewall between extremist Islam and moderate Islam," he added.

'Religion of Peace'

Islamic scholars and Muslim advocates dispute Spencer's research and the premise of his book.

Michael Young, editor of Islam For Today, rejects the notion that the religion of Islam is to blame for terrorist activities.

"Islam promotes itself first and foremost as a religion of peace ... Islam spread throughout Southeast Asia and Africa entirely by peaceful means," Young told CNSNews.com.

Young believes many people mistakenly believe Islam is a violent religion because of the "local culture" of some Muslim nations.

"Very often when Islam is in society for so long, people fail to distinguish between what is Islam and what is their own local culture," Young explained.

Young did concede however, "There are vocal people within in Muslim community who do harbor Taliban sympathies."

'Defamatory attacks on Islam'

Ibrahim Hooper, communications director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), was more blunt in defending Islam from charges that it encourages terrorism.

"When people of other faiths commit crimes or violent acts, people don't generalize to the whole faith, but when a Muslim commits a violent act, somehow it is an indictment to their entire faith," Hooper told CNSNews.com.

"Muslims occasionally do bad things, so do Jews, so do Christians, so do Hindus, so do Martians," he added.

Hooper believes that since the Sept. 11 terror attacks, there has been "a new cottage industry of defamatory attacks on Islam."

"If you want to make a buck now, attack Islam," Hooper said. "When it is done to Christianity or Judaism, people in authority object. When it is done to Islam, it gets a pass," he added.

Young believes Islam's tarnished image among some Westerners is the result of some Muslim followers misinterpreting passages of the Koran, something that could happen in any religion, he said.

"If you are intent on committing a violent act, you can always find some religious text that smashes the heads of babies against rocks. If you choose to interpret in a certain way, you will find what you are looking for," Young said.

But Spencer, agreeing that many religions of the world have inspired violence among its adherents, believes Islam is by far the most culpable.

"There is no doubt that Christians and Jews and everybody else bearing every other name of every other religion have done terrible things, but that doesn't mean that every religious text is equal in capacity to inspire that kind of thing," Spencer said.

According to Spencer, the Koran takes the "Seventh Century warrior," Muhammad, and "canonize[s] him as the supreme example of human behavior."

"So that instead of being a Seventh Century warfare pattern that we ought not to follow, [Muhammad] becomes the model for how we should always behave. So this is the defect, this is the difficulty," Spencer said.

'Political Correctness'

Larry Johnson, a former CIA and State Department officer and counter terrorism expert, believes media and government officials are not dealing forthright with the threat of Islamic terrorists, because there is a "bit of political correctness still running afoot."

"We like to portray as a nation, Islam as a religion of peace, and it really isn't," Johnson said.

"As it is widely practiced, [Islam] doesn't encourage peace and it encourages violence, Part of that is that it has not had its own version of The Reformation. It is stuck in Middle Ages as Christianity or Judaism once was," he added.

"[Moderates] do not represent the majority thought in the Muslim world. They are very much on the defensive," Johnson said.

Johnson believes the radical Islam movement is the greatest national security threat facing the U.S.

"There is no other significant threat confronting us ... it gives people a reason to do what they do and to take risks and make sacrifices," Johnson said.

Johnson thinks a modern "crusade" may be necessary to battle Islam.

"I think George Bush was right when he called for a crusade, but it's not a crusade of Christians against Islam, as was a hallmark of the first Crusades. This is a crusade of [modern societies] versus a medieval thought process," Johnson said.

'50,000 Muslim Men'

In order to fight what he sees as a growing Islamic threat, Spencer proposes that the U.S. impose strict immigration limits on Muslims entering the U.S.

"Why were 50,000 Muslim men admitted to the country from Muslim countries since September 11?" he asked. When are we going to start being sane about immigration law?"

Spencer would also like to see mosques monitored by law enforcement for anti-American sentiment and any inciting of violence, ideas Hooper finds offensive.

"I live here too. I don't want to be attacked, but battling terrorists and defaming Islam are two different things," Hooper countered.

Spencer is not optimistic the U.S. will take the security threat of Islam seriously.

"Everyone is so afraid of being called a racist that they are afraid to take measures that are necessary to defend oneself," Spencer said.

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1 posted on 11/13/2002 3:35:07 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
When you are in a conflict and you don't know the true nature of your opponent, you are at a tremendous disadvantage

I think the problem is worse than this. I believe we actually do know the true nature of our opponent, but in our attempt to have the appearance of fairness, we refuse to act on what we know to be true.
2 posted on 11/13/2002 3:55:30 AM PST by aardvark1
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To: kattracks
The Spencer book is a brilliant and terrifying thing. Working entirely from facts -- the Qur'an, the hadith of Muhammad's life, and the history of the spread of Islam -- he constructs a powerful case that Islam will never be compatible with American concepts of individual liberty, secular law, and human moral equality. Highly recommended.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit the Palace Of Reason: http://palaceofreason.com

3 posted on 11/13/2002 4:02:24 AM PST by fporretto
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To: All
killing close to 3000 of us in one day wasn't enuf...it's just in our nature to wait for a really major catastrophe...when 10s or 100s of thousands of us are killed(by chems/bios or a more probable nuke shipped to ny docks)...then and only then will the borders be *almost* closed to arabs(muslims) along with 10s of thousands of muslims being deported and/or interred...that is of course if doing so doesn't cost *too* much oil or money...
4 posted on 11/13/2002 4:03:15 AM PST by gPal
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To: aardvark1
"we refuse to act on what we know to be true.

I think this is partly a distorted attempt to be "fair" and partly real confusion about how to deal with this ancient enemy of the West (and of Christians, Jews and even Hindus everywhere).

We are more or less prepared to fight the modern "isms" but not for a resurgence of an enemy that has, since its birth, been trying to conquer or kill anyone who refuses to accept it. One of Spencer's excellent points was that there is no such thing as "moderate" Islam, and that the "moderates" are, sadly, the ones who are out of step with Islam, because it is violent in its scriptures and from its very earliest years.

If I recall correctly, Mohammed fought 70+ battles - and only one of them was defensive.

5 posted on 11/13/2002 4:08:36 AM PST by livius
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To: kattracks
This pains me to state, but Robert Spencer speaks the truth. Islam is a religion of piece only when it is on their warped terms. These Islamic people will never rest or peacefully co-exist in a “freedom of religion” secular society, and in fact, will continue to oppress in any society.

In truth, their society, with respect to religion has not matured enough to coexist in a free society. Their growth rate in the US is truly alarming. If a majority, or a significant number, they will be much more of a problem, they religion simply is counter to the basic tenants of this country’s founding. It seems, we can thank the feel good politicians of the 60’s, including the Kennedys / Democrats for this sorry state of immigration – and the blight it has created.

6 posted on 11/13/2002 4:37:37 AM PST by RAY
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To: RAY
Their growth rate in the US is truly alarming

This past September, Hillsdale College (Michigan) held a seminar on the topic, “How to Think About Islam.” Nine guest speakers, both Islamic and non-Islamic, and several faculty members offered divergent views on several questions about radical Islam, terrorism, etc.. A flyer for this seminar somehow found its way to my mailbag here at work. A disturbing comment made by one of the professors really caught my attention: To renew itself, Islam must resume its pilgrimage. All the world will be better for it.

Full article here...

I think it's going to be a long ride. They're not going to stop until every one of us either converts to Islam or dies.

7 posted on 11/13/2002 5:24:10 AM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: fivecatsandadog
To renew itself, Islam must resume its pilgrimage. All the world will be better for it.

Meaning: Islam has historically been left (i.e., put itself) in one desert after another. To find fresh oases, out of which it has not yet sucked its children's welfare, it now covets the wealth of the West. They may make enemies, but they're clever (they'll blaze the trail by killing and maiming dozens for each martyr--i.e., act cowardly), and they've got god on their side.

HF

8 posted on 11/13/2002 5:50:04 AM PST by holden
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To: aardvark1
The clearest understanding of the danger of icklam is right here on freerepublic. Thank you all.
9 posted on 11/13/2002 6:04:48 AM PST by norraad
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To: aardvark1
>>I think the problem is worse than this. I believe we actually do know the true nature of our opponent, but in our attempt to have the appearance of fairness, we refuse to act on what we know to be true.

If you're talking about Dubya and "peaceful, friendly Muslims", I have another "take" on the situation:

Often, diplomacy consists of saying "nice doggie!" to a snarling mongrel, whilst looking for a rock.

Hopefully I'm not just whistling in the dark.


10 posted on 11/13/2002 6:08:49 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: fporretto
I just love guys like Hooper who talk as if there are major Jewish or Christian movements like the Islamic Jihads and Al Qaedas. There simply AREN'T. It's not like some guy killed a bunch of people because he thought aliens told him to do so and he HAPPENED to be Muslim. They're killing people FOR their religion, and not just in one place, but all over.

Besides, the idea that it's not Islam is preposterous. Please show me the passages in the Lotus Sutra or anywhere else in Buddhism that call for the slaughter or deception of your enemies. Please point me to the massive Buddhist terrorist organizations bent on world domination.

When Islam apologists can do that, maybe i'll consider their case.

I think of it like this, compare Mohammad's life(according to the stories, at least) with Jesus or with Buddha. For all that, compare his life to Kung fu'tze or Lao tze. I can't think of a major religion that has as its CENTRAL figure someone so violent and who sanctions violence as the direct wish of God(let's not get into the Old Testament)
11 posted on 11/13/2002 6:09:11 AM PST by Skywalk
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To: Skywalk
I just love guys like Hooper who talk as if there are major Jewish or Christian movements like the Islamic Jihads and Al Qaedas. There simply AREN'T.

Hooper has had more than enough time to study and deliver specifics if he wished... the lack of substance in his stance is quite revealing. The adopted defense of Islam that he's chosen could well be summed up as "nuh uh....I know you are, but what am I?"
12 posted on 11/13/2002 6:20:38 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: holden
"they've got god on their side."

They think...

We are a country that works while we stay a european culture. (Far east asians have adopted european style cultures as well, whether they want to admit it or not.)

We must adjust our imigration laws to keep this a european style culture!
13 posted on 11/13/2002 6:32:08 AM PST by uncbuck
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To: kattracks
The new testament contains absolutely NOTHING that could even remotely be construed as a command or incitement to Christians to use violence against non-Christians, either to spread our faith or for any other reason. People who call themselves "Christians" and who have employed violence in the name of their religion are doing so in VIOLATION of Christian scriptural commands.

On the other hand, the Quran contains EXPLICIT language that COMMANDS violence by Muslims against non-Muslims, to spread their faith and or other reasons. People who call themselves "Muslims" and who have employed violence in the name of their religion are doing so in OBEDIENCE of Islamic scriptural commands.

This is a significant difference. The medieval "Christian crusaders", it can be argued, were being disobedient to their faith. The modern Islamic terrorists are being obedient to their faith. Thus, it is legitimate to focus on Islam itself as the issue.

14 posted on 11/13/2002 7:10:56 AM PST by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: Skywalk; All
I can't think of a major religion that has as its CENTRAL figure someone so violent and who sanctions violence as the direct wish of God(let's not get into the Old Testament)

Actually, it's quite instructive to compare the Old Testament with the New Testament. The Sermon on the Mount is a devastating line-by-line refutation of Moses's ministry, and, as such, is one of the secondary reasons the Rabbis loath Jesus to this day.

15 posted on 11/13/2002 7:11:28 AM PST by SlickWillard
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To: holden
they've got god on their side.

No, what they actually have on their side is the Prince of Lies, the old deceiver, the leader of the Jenn, Lucifer. How shrewd of him to disguise himself as a counterfeit of the angels serving the one and true God, and thus to lead billions astray. How shrewd of him to use a fraudulent "prophet" to mislead billions away from Christ. How shrewd of him to use a violent, profane man to start a violent, profane religion that wages war against the true religion founded by the Prince of Peace.

Islamic terrorists are violent, hateful people because they are faithful followers of a violent, hateful religion founded by a violent, hateful man through the inspiration of a violent, hateful Satan.

When someone claims that "Islam is a religion of peace" I am reminded of what was said of the ancient Romans: "They created a desert and called it 'peace'".

16 posted on 11/13/2002 7:29:59 AM PST by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: kattracks
Spencer believes the U.S. is not prepared to fight a war on terrorism because the nation fails to understand the true nature of Islam. says Robert Spencer, author of Islam Unveiled We are at WAR with ISLAM, the sooner we ACCEPT the TRUTH the sooner we will WIN! Islam is the enemy and terror is a bi-product of this enemy we face. The sooner we accept who the enemy is the way to victory will become clear. said TLBSHOW
17 posted on 11/13/2002 7:38:16 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: kattracks
"Islam promotes itself first and foremost as a religion of peace ... Islam spread throughout Southeast Asia and Africa entirely by peaceful means," Young told CNSNews.com.

You bet, I'm sure it's only recently that Muslims in Africa (the Sudan, Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast etc) and Southeast Asia (the Philippines, Indonesia etc) have resorted to violence to get their point across. </ sarcasm >

18 posted on 11/13/2002 7:42:35 AM PST by agrace
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To: FreedomPoster
"If you're talking about Dubya and 'peaceful, friendly Muslims', I have another "take" on the situation:

Often, diplomacy consists of saying "nice doggie!" to a snarling mongrel, whilst looking for a rock. Hopefully I'm not just whistling in the dark."

I concur...

We should assume that behind closed doors Dubya has been counseled that ALL Islam is indeed diametrically opposed to ALL non-Islamic culture and religion, thus it's believers a genuine threat inside America every day of the week. Whatever we see or hear on TV from Dubya is pure show to "let sleeping dogs lie" -- for now.

19 posted on 11/13/2002 7:52:18 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: aardvark1
When you are in a conflict and you don't know the true nature of your opponent, you are at a tremendous disadvantage."

Even worse-- when you're in a conflict and don't know yourself.

At least Bush doesn't have that problem.

20 posted on 11/13/2002 8:06:45 AM PST by tsomer
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