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To: u-89
There is much in this argument with which I agree. However, for as far back as human beings have been on this planet, our natural inclination has been to organize ourselves into societal units with leaders, followers, traditions, and cultural do's and don'ts. As our societal units have grown from small family groups to tribes, to villages, to towns, to cities, to states, to unions of multiple states, we have retained our basic impulse to follow leaders and observe cultural do's and don'ts (today we call them laws). The strong have always accumulated power, and with it, material wealth and the means to subjugate the weaker members of their society.

Our founders knew this, perhaps better than we do today. They were not at all optimistic that the country they brought into being would outlast their own lifetimes, let alone survive more or less intact for two and a quarter centuries.

Like it or not, there is no going back — either to the republic as the founders knew it, or to a monarchy, or to a primitive tribal existance. All we can do is keep going forward, pooling our talents, efforts and resources to exert a restraint on the federal government, as well as the blatant attempts by the Left (particularly the Euro Left) to supplant nations with one world government.

65 posted on 11/15/2002 12:33:58 PM PST by Wolfstar
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To: Wolfstar
I agree with your assessment that there is no going back to the way it was. That is the worst part of sociallism. It doesn't work yet you can't give it up. Basically I had given up any hope (dillusion) that we could restore our country either through the GOP or a 3rd party but the concept of the Free State Project inspired me as it theoretically doable and now I have some hope for the future of liberty, at least on a small scale though deep in my heart I still believe we are entering a dark age of a 1984 type system. Perhaps we can forstall it till after my natural lifetime.
68 posted on 11/15/2002 7:25:06 PM PST by u-89
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