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I'm a little lost here. Was the first seige of Vienna in 1527 the traditional form, or the new form? When Mo was first started out and slaughtered a mess of people was that the old for, or the new form?
Do you mind if I ask you why you are defending this bull shit? There must be some sort of reason in the background.
If you think I'm trying to defend Islam you have me way wrong. In my opinion it's a pathetic religion (just covering the women proves that) and we should probably intern the lot of them. The only point is that Islam has a complex history with gradations of belief in the same way Christianity has evolved with fundamentalist and liberals and everything in between. To ignore this complexity and lump ALL Muslims together is an over simplified view of history and the world.