[Deb]

I hope they didn't shut down Echelon or Carnivore, but since the feds know when the terrorists are talking to each other, we can assume they're still up. Thank God (and no thanks to you) .

Why don't you draw up and submit to the WH, a list of acceptable policies and devices that will stop the thousands of maniacal terrorists, currently in or country, who would like to turn you and your family into crunchy landfill. The phones are waiting.

I don't think you addressed the sleeper cell problem.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

I don't think you addressed the sleeper cell problem. As I wrote earlier, the suspects' data base remains, and the tracking. If you can't catch a sleeper cell in four years, by that time those who aren't caught had already figured out how to get around all this tracking anyway. Four years from now, we will have old laws on the books that only hurt innocent people. Yep, this was thought through a bit and discussed with others prior to posting. Otherwise, I wouldn't have had the nerve to post the way I did.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

I hope they didn't shut down Echelon or Carnivore, but since the feds know when the terrorists are talking to each other, we can assume they're still up. Thank God (and no thanks to you) .

Just think though. We had Echelon during the Clinton years, while one of Clinton's flunkies, Kennedy [from Arksansas], was typing raw FBI files into his home PC on the kitchen table. Talk about kitchen table issues!

There isn't any evidence [I know of] that Echelon files were copied by the Clintonista, but in the long run, Echelon and Carnivore will do more harm than good. Smart terrorists will figure out how to bypass them. The not-so-smart will get caught. But those two programs will be around forever, for the next Clinton to plunder.