Pelosi Not A "Conservative Catholic" Catholic League President Says (New Old Left)

NewsMax ^ | 11/15/02 | Limbacher

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

Nancy Pelosi's claim to be a "conservative Catholic" was challenged today by an astonished Catholic League president William Donahue.

Noting that Pelosi made the claim on yesterday's CNN show, "Inside Politics," when the new House Minority Leader said, "Yes, I'm a liberal Democrat, but I'm a conservative Catholic," Donahue ticked off Pelosi's numerous stands in conflict with her Church:

Pelosi, has voted against school vouchers and the Faith- Based Initiative.

She has been an ardent abortion supporter. " When it comes to abortion, no one in the U.S. Congress has a more extreme record than she does," Donahue reports. "Whether the issue is parental consent or partial-birth abortion, she can always be counted on to deliver a pro-abortion vote." In spite of these anti-Catholic positions, Donahue said "she calls herself a 'conservative Catholic.' It would be instructive to know what she considers a liberal Catholic to be."

And Donahue wasn't finished: "It's actually worse than this," he said. "The October 12 edition of the PBS program, 'To the Contrary,' showed Pelosi playing host to anti- Catholics. Frances Kissling and other staff members of the notoriously anti-Catholic organization Catholics for a Free Choice, were featured walking out of Pelosi's office after a lobbying session.

"Pelosi's contacts with these anti-Catholics is nothing new: in 1995 she was critical of the U.S. bishops for blasting Kissling's outfit as anti-Catholic," he recalled. "At that time, the bishops objected to the inclusion of Kissling's group at the U.N. Conference on Women that was to be held in Beijing.

"In reference to Kissling, William Cardinal Keeler, then head of the bishops' conference, said 'To use the name Catholic to promote the taking of innocent life is offensive.' Pelosi defended Kissling saying 'Many women are concerned about freedom of speech and association at the conference. Accreditation should not be a politicized process.' It is not surprising, then, that Pelosi refuses to condemn the DNC, [Democratic National Committee] for its support for Kissling's group today.

"In short," Donahue concluded, "Pelosi's spin game is insulting. No conservative Catholic we know okays the killing of kids 80 percent born."

[Salvation]

**Nancy Pelosi's claim to be a "conservative Catholic" was challenged today by an astonished Catholic League president William Donahue.**

Bump for the Catholic League and Bill Donahue.

[Salvation]

**"Yes, I'm a liberal Democrat, but I'm a conservative Catholic,"**

Isn't this an oxymornic statement? Both cannot be true!

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

If I were a Leftist I'd have to ask myself how much of a DIPWAD these people really think I am.

[Salvation]

Catholic discussion ping!

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[Remedy]

**"Yes, I'm a liberal Democrat, but I'm a conservative Catholic,"**

Isn't this an oxymornic statement? Both cannot be true!

Similar to Willy Clinton being a Southern Baptist or Hitler being a Catholic.

Maybe Pelosi is a member of CATHOLICS FOR A FREE CHOICE?

 

 

 

[SuziQ]

The claim is sometimes made that Hitler was a Christian - a Roman Catholic until the day he died. In fact

I thought Hitler was considered a pagan, looking to return Germany to its Teutonic glory.

[Remedy]

- Darwinism and the Nazi Race Holocaust -
Although Hitler was baptized a Catholic, he was never excommunicated, and evidently ‘considered himself a good Roman Catholic’ as a young man, and at times used religious language. He clearly had strong, even vociferous, anti-Christian feelings as an adult, as did probably most Nazi party leaders. As a consummate politician, though, he openly tried to exploit the church.⁵⁵ Hitler once revealed his attitude toward Christianity when he bluntly stated that religion is an:

‘ … organized lie [that] must be smashed. The State must remain the absolute master. When I was younger, I thought it was necessary to set about [destroying religion] … with dynamite. I’ve since realized there’s room for a little subtlety …. The final state must be … in St. Peter’s Chair, a senile officiant; facing him a few sinister old women … The young and healthy are on our side … it’s impossible to eternally hold humanity in bondage and lies …. [It] was only between the sixth and eighth centuries that Christianity was imposed upon our peoples …. Our peoples had previously succeeded in living all right without this religion. I have six divisions of SS men absolutely indifferent in matters of religion. It doesn’t prevent them from going to their death with serenity in their souls.’ ⁵⁶

His beliefs as revealed in this quote are abundantly clear: the younger people who were the hope of Germany were ‘absolutely indifferent in matters of religion’. As Keith noted, the Nazi party viewed Darwinism and Christianity as polar opposites.

[firewalk]

Thank you for the ping & Bttt

[SuziQ]

The claim is sometimes made that Hitler was a Christian - a Roman Catholic until the day he died. In fact

I never knew he was baptized a Catholic; I just knew he didn't live his life as a Catholic, and his public policies for Germany never reflected Christian teachings.

[reformed_democrat]

Thanks for the PING, Salvation.

If Pelosi claims to be a Conservative Catholic and gets away with it, maybe I could claim to be Ann Coulter and get some of the revenue generated by her book sales. Heck, maybe if I claim to be Ann Coulter I could wear a size six dress, too.

Well, I suppose I could wear a size six dress. On my head. As a hat.

[Jeff Chandler]

the notoriously anti-Catholic organization Catholics for a Free Choice This statement reminds me of Blacks who call other Blacks Oreos or Uncle Toms.

Not at all. One can hold ANY point of view and still be black, but a pro-abortion stance is anti-Catholic, period.

[kellynla]

Pelosi, Kennedy, Sanchez et al are CINO's(Catholics in Name Only)...

[Rum Tum Tugger]

It's great that Donahue spoke out quickly. I really like and respect that guy.

But doesn't it disturb you that it's not a Catholic Bishop that spoke out first? Doesn't it disturb you that no Catholic Bishop will ever speak out on Pelosi's claim to be a conservative Catholic? What's wrong with those guys?