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To: Persuasion
The bible requires killing homosexuals, adulterers and adultresses, murderers and other sinners.

That is the Old Testament, and if you disagree with passages in the Torah, you should talk with the Jews about those laws that governed the Israelites.

Some Christian groups still believe all that still holds, but most Christians believe Christ fulfilled the Law and instituted a new Commandment, "that ye love one another even as I have loved you." He forgave the woman taken in adultery who was about to be stoned and prevented the stoning. (He also commanded her to "sin no more.")

These are the Christian traditions, forgiveness and love, and throwing up old Israelite laws that a minority of Jews and Christians still believe in is the same tactic that you are criticizing the Muslim critics of using, condemning the whole for the views of a minority.

However, I do agree with a lot of people here that the "minority" of Muslims who believe in killing or enslaving Infidels (you, me and our families and friends) is a lot greater than you think, especially if you add in the Muslims who acquiesce in this murder and slavery.

And don't kid yourself about the latter. It is Muslims who still continue to practice slavery.

121 posted on 11/19/2002 7:07:22 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: patriciaruth
I don't disagree with passages in the Torah.

And Jesus said he came to establish the law, not to do away with it.

Love and forgiveness certainly have their places in Christanity, but so does justice and ultimately, there will be judgement.

I can't say what most christians believe. My church is non-denominational. We still hold the Old Testament sacred.

However, my point was merely that you can find verses
in any religion's texts that its followers, as a general rule, do not follow. That being the case, using
a religious verse as evidence that an individual plans
to murder you doesn't work.

Again, I'm denying that many muslims murder. That is obviously the case. And I support fighting against that sort. But there are many who do not and will not.
And we should treat the peaceful differently than we
treat attackers.



138 posted on 11/20/2002 5:20:20 PM PST by Persuasion
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