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To: hscott
Likewise comes the libertarian claim that American adventures in the Cold War were misguided. In this they display an ugly penchant for concerning themselves with the liberties of white Americans

This fellow is about as honest as a New York minute is long.

The Constitution was never intended for "white Americans" and the limits it places on American adventurism abroad are designed to protect all Americans from wars provoked by faulty behavior by their representatives.

Dred Scott was bad law.

WWI and the resulting Treaty of Versailles and acts of naked aggression by the French were arguably what caused Hitler's rise.

The war against Japan was demonstrably provoked by acts of war committed by the US against Japan.

These hit pieces are proof that the establishment is worried about the affects of the LP on politics as we know it. Contrary to those who claim that the LP only receives 1% of the vote, in many cases this past election Libertarians received unprecedented numbers (even up to 25% in some congressional races).

It's working and as a libertarian, I haven't got alot of complaints about our progress. We have over 300 elected libertarians in public office both partisan and non-partisan positions.

We've fielded the most candidates nation-wide of any third-party in existence.

If there is a complaint I have it is that the behavior of libertarians in office is not widely disseminated. The important data for anyone deciding on which candidate to vote for is: "What have these people accomplished once elected?"

With the republicans and democrats, we already have our answer. Both have yielded enormous growth in the governments they control.

When Reagan was elected, the federal budget was 600 billion. When he left office it was approaching 2 trillion.

124 posted on 11/18/2002 10:42:56 AM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
"The war against Japan was demonstrably provoked by acts of war committed by the US against Japan." Please elaborate - your statement is news to me.

"WWI and the resulting Treaty of Versailles and acts of naked aggression by the French were arguably what caused Hitler's rise." OK granted - I actually think also that Versailles was flawed. So a big mistake was made. Still Hitler did arise and we did have to defeat him. Or do you argue that we should not have entered WWII?

I think you are mistaken about the LP's success. The 1% referred to the Pres election (actually I think it was 1/2%) No one says that in certain more local elections the LP got a bigger percentage. For example in my state, Virginia, incumbent Senator Warner was unopposed by a Dem. So any anti-Warner votes went to the Lib candidate.

Finally about Reagan's swelling the budget. A lot of that increase was for defense. A lot more was Democrat spending that he could not prevent. OTOH his defense spending was a big factor in the fall of the Soviet Union. Money well spent, I'd say.

131 posted on 11/18/2002 10:55:21 AM PST by hscott
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