[Demidog]

What you said was untrue. Hope that helps.

[billybudd]

My point was simply that libertarians tend to criticise and seek to reverse government policy, as a way of expressing their politics. So, they look to the government for a solution in the sense that they expect the government to change in order to bring about a freer society. I'm arguing that this is backwards; most effort should be spent on educating people and attempting to change the culture at a very fundamental, philosophical level. In this way, a free society can develop from the bottom up. Changes in government policy would come later, but much easier and at less political cost. So basically, I'm arguing against libertarianism as a political party, but for it as a philosophical/ideological movement. Hope I clarified myself.