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To: AZLiberty
Inaction on the part of governing bodies over individuals like this is enexcusable. It will result in complete anarchy once the gubby's are labeled as being "irrelevant". People will eventually do what needs to be done in any just situation if their own safety is at risk. Our own governments and their special statushood for this group or that group are bigger threats to our long term survival than Bin Laden, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Saddam, Hitler, and Kim Jong combined.

The public knows, it is time to flush the toilet. Isolate Islamic nations to their own end. As the good cleric say's about people and cows.....It is best to keep all the cows in the barn than to have them $hit up your own back yard.

4 posted on 11/18/2002 7:36:45 AM PST by blackdog
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To: blackdog
"Tapes of Sheik Abu Hamza, a cleric affiliated with London's Finsbury Park mosque, telling an audience that non-believers should be killed or sold into slavery have been smuggled onto the Internet."



Although there is ample evidence to show that islam is NOT "a religion of peace", western leaders are not going to admit it.

"If a kafir person (non-believer) goes in a Muslim country, he is like a cow. Anybody can take him. That is the Islamic law," Mr. Hamza says on one tape.

Why arn't the "peaceful" muslims coming forward with info about the fanatical muslims? After all, since the "extreme" muslims are someones father, brother, sister, mother, uncle, cousin, friend,etc. and they are all muslims,someone in the "peaceful" group knows each of the "extreme" muslims.

"If a kafir is walking by and you catch him, he's booty. You can sell him in the market. Most of them are spies. And even if they don't do anything, if Muslims cannot take them and sell them in the market, you just kill them. It's OK."

If they are not afraid to preach this crap in public,then logic tells me they are definately preaching to their fellow muslims.

"If Muslims are having a war against these people, than yes, it is legitimate," he says.

Every muslim country in the world persecutes non-muslims.

"You see the Serbs, the same people that raped our brothers and sisters. You see their dead bodies lying around in the hundreds. You feel that you've achieved something."

History shows us that, every time muslims have become the majority in a country, the persecution has started in earnest.

Couldn't happen in the U.S.?
There are many things happening in the U.S. today that I would have said was impossible 30 years ago.

When the muslim population in the U.S. gets large enough,when they get enough muslims in office to enact laws,
when they have enough muslims in positions of authority,

("A disturbing pattern of infiltration of lower levels of the U.S. military by would-be Islamist jihad warriors is emerging, cautions one analyst of military affairs and terrorism.")

I think we'll start seeing a different approach in the American muslim population.

In one tape, a British medical student, who says his name is Abu Ibrahim, is shown holding a Kalashnikov machine-gun and mocking Muslims whose only contribution to jihad is to donate money to an Islamic charity.

"What we lack are Muslims that are prepared to suffer and sacrifice," he says.

Could that be because, at this time, the odds are stacked against them?













8 posted on 11/18/2002 8:43:29 AM PST by philetus
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