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Muslims must disavow Osama's message
National Post ^ | 11/18/2002 | George Jonas

Posted on 11/18/2002 5:20:47 PM PST by rickmichaels

When the audio tape attributed to Osama bin Laden was released last week, the voice that threatened America's allies didn't issue its warning in the name of al-Qaeda. It didn't purport to speak for Iraq, Indonesia, Chechnya or the Palestinian territories. Though the voice listed them all, it spoke for what it called "the Muslim nation."

"As you assassinate," bin Laden said to the West, naming each of six countries in turn, from Australia to Great Britain, and from Canada to Italy, "so will you be assassinated. As you bomb so will you likewise be. So the Muslim nation begins to attack you with its children, who are committed before God to continue the jihad, by word and by the sword."

About two days later U.S. President George W. Bush also made a set of remarks as he began a meeting with UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan.

"By far, the vast majority of American citizens respect the Islamic people and the Muslim faith," Mr. Bush said, while dissociating his government from intemperate comments about Muslims made by some televangelists, whom Mr. Bush didn't name. The President probably referred to Pat Robertson who reportedly said recently that Muslims were "worse than the Nazis" or to Jerry Falwell who in a TV interview last month described the prophet Mohammed as a "terrorist."

"It is encouraging to hear President Bush address the issue of Islamophobic rhetoric in our society. We hope the President's rejection of anti-Muslim hate speech will be followed by similar statements from other elected officials and from mainstream religious leaders," commented Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) communications director Ibrahim Hooper.

No disagreement here. It's indeed encouraging for the general cause of peace and tolerance in the world that President Bush repudiates excessive or thoughtless statements and reaffirms fundamental Western values. But it would be equally reassuring for leaders of Islamic countries, from Egypt to Saudi Arabia, to have issued similar statements following the speech attributed to bin Laden.

It would have been reassuring to hear one or more major figures in the world of Islam say that "the vast majority of citizens of Muslim countries respect the American people and the Christian faith." Except this didn't happen. Nor did Mr. Hooper express the hope that it might happen. He didn't offer to repudiate what Osama bin Laden said while purporting to speak for the "Muslim nation." Mr. Hooper expected "other elected officials and mainstream religious leaders" to follow the President's example and declare that Pat Robertson and other televangelists don't speak for America, but he didn't offer to declare, or call on Muslim leaders to declare, that "bin Laden doesn't speak for Islam."

So what we're left with is bin Laden declaring that he speaks for the "Muslim nation," which now "begins to attack you with its children," without anybody saying: "No, bin Laden, you do not. You do not speak for the millions of peace-loving Muslims. You speak only for a handful of terrorists." So far we've heard nothing from the millions of peace-loving Muslims. We heard nothing from their political leaders in Islamic countries. We heard nothing from their spiritual leaders, at home or in the West. We heard nothing from the spokespeople of CAIR. If it weren't for President Bush's assurance that millions of peace-loving Muslims exist, we wouldn't know it. They're silent, except when some exhort us, like Mr. Hooper, to keep declaring through our "elected officials and mainstream religious leaders" that Muslims are peace-loving.

I don't doubt that they are, only I wouldn't mind hearing it from them for a change. It was great to hear it from President Bush, but now I'd like to hear it from CAIR.

Whatever Pat Robertson said, he blew up nothing. However injudicious Jerry Falwell's remarks have been, he didn't threaten anyone with assassination. Robertson or Falwell cannot be mentioned in the same breath with Osama bin Laden -- yet as soon as they spoke, the President dissociated his government and his country from them. "I'll remind the Secretary-General," he said, "that our war against terror is a war against individuals whose hearts are full of hate. We do not fight a religion."

Did Muslim leaders, secular or religious, say anything to dissociate themselves and their faith from bin Laden when he declared his jihad against "the Crusaders and the Jews"? Did the ruler of a supposedly friendly Arab country, such as Saudi Arabia or Jordan, say, as Mr. Bush did, that "the comments that have been uttered do not reflect the sentiments of my government"?

When asked this question, Arab and Muslim commentators usually reply that (1) we have said it, and (2) why should we be obliged to say the obvious? The two replies are offered in the same breath, though reply no. 1 is negated by reply no. 2, and reply no 2. is worthless. On this test, President Bush shouldn't be obliged to say the obvious either -- i.e., that "ours is a country based upon tolerance" and that we won't let "terrorists cause us to change our values" -- yet he's not only saying it, but CAIR demands that he and other leaders should say it even louder and more often. They're right to demand it because in such situations the obvious isn't obvious unless it's stated loudly and often -- except this is no less true for CAIR than for President Bush. The difference is that Mr. Bush is actually saying it, while Muslim countries and communities say little beyond reiterating their own grievances.

Sorry. Reiterating grievances isn't enough to convince the world that bin Laden is only engaged in wishful thinking when he says he speaks for "the Muslim nation."


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1 posted on 11/18/2002 5:20:47 PM PST by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels
Won't bother with the article, but to the Title:

Dream on.

3 posted on 11/18/2002 5:27:50 PM PST by New Horizon
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To: rickmichaels
So the Muslim nation begins to attack you with its children, who are committed before God to continue the jihad, by word and by the sword."

Osama knows the truth.

It would have been reassuring to hear one or more major figures in the world of Islam say that "the vast majority of citizens of Muslim countries respect the American people and the Christian faith." Except this didn't happen.

We, apparently, do not.

4 posted on 11/18/2002 5:28:00 PM PST by templar
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To: rickmichaels
..........So far we've heard nothing from the millions of peace-loving Muslims..........

...........We heard nothing from their political leaders in Islamic countries............

..........We heard nothing from their spiritual leaders, at home or in the West..............

...........We heard nothing from the spokespeople of CAIR.

If it weren't for President Bush's assurance that millions of peace-loving Muslims exist, we wouldn't know it.

I'll Bump that.

5 posted on 11/18/2002 5:35:39 PM PST by DoctorMichael
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Maybe someone can help me with this. We all know the Pres has nads. Why is it that they disappear with the mere mention of Islam?

If I hear him say "Islam is a religion of peace" one more time, I am going to lose my mind and my lunch. I understand the need to be diplomatic in relation to Muslim countries we are not currently about to go to war with, but.........

Can't he say something that would be less of a load of crap? Like perhaps, "Not all Muslims seek to destroy non-Muslims?" It is still a lie, just not such an offensive one. His constant reassurance that Islamomaniacs don't want to destroy us (when that is patently false) is making me regret I voted for him.

If he doesn't get tougher on these psychos, lose the amnesty and earned legalization crap, and tighten our borders, I won't make the same mistake twice.
6 posted on 11/18/2002 5:51:47 PM PST by Morrigan
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To: rickmichaels
Of course, the great majority of Muslims are peaceful -- so what?
7 posted on 11/18/2002 5:58:00 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: rickmichaels
The National Post wants Muslims to disavow Osama's message.

And people in hell want ice water.

Maybe Osama can take them some.
8 posted on 11/18/2002 7:14:29 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: rickmichaels
LINKS OF INTEREST:

FOX NEWS.com (AP): "ALABAMA CHIEF JUSTICE ORDERED TO REMOVE TEN COMMANDMENTS" (111802)

COVENANT NEWS.com: "IS CHRISTIANITY BECOMING EXTINCT?" -Commentary by Chuck Baldwin

COMPUTER WORLD - Security Topics: "EXCLUSIVE: BIN LADEN ASSOCIATE WARNS OF CYBERATTACKS" by Dan Verton (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "A London-based fundamentalist Islamic cleric with known ties to Osama bin Laden said al-Qaeda and various other fundamentalist Muslim groups around the world are actively planning to use the Internet as a weapon in their "defensive" jihad, or holy war, against the West. In an exclusive interview today with Computerworld, Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad, founder of the London-based group Jama'at Al-Muhajirun and the spokesman for Osama bin Laden's International Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders, said all types of technology, including the Internet, are being studied for use in the global jihad against the West...") (111802)

NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROTECTION CENTER: "What's New"

CANADA.com: "'IT'S OK TO KILL NON-MUSLIMS': RADICAL CLERIC" by Michael Petrou, The Ottawa Citizen (ARTICLE NOTE: The "radical cleric" is identified as Sheik Abu Hamza.)

INSIGHT On The News online: "TOP EGYPTIAN CLERIC JUSTIFIES SUICIDE TERRORISM" by Kenneth R. Timmerman (ARTICLE NOTE: The top Egyptian cleric is identified as Sheikh Ahmad Al-Tayyeb.) (111302)

WorldNetDaily.com: "EGYPTIAN CLERIC SEEKS MORE SUICIDE BOMBINGS" (ARTICLE NOTE: The Eygyptian cleric is identified as Sheikh Muhammad Sayyed Tantawi.) (April 8, 2002)

FBI.gov: "SEEKING INFORMATION: AMER EL-MAATI" (FBI POSTER NOTE: Amer El-Maati's known aka's are: "Amro Badr Eldin Abou El-Maati, Amro Badr Abouelmaat")

CANADA.com: "FBI TOLD RCMP MAN HAD TERROR LINK Embarrassed Officials Admit U.S. Sent Evidence About Maher Arar" by Mike Trickey, THE OTTAWA CITIZEN (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Mr. Al-Maati's older brother, Amr Badr Abou Elmoati, also a Canadian citizen, is wanted by the FBI in connection with new al-Qaeda threats made against the U.S. Documents found in a house in Kabul a year ago contained a July 1996 letter from Immigration Canada to an Amro Abouelmaati in Toronto, informing him that his Canadian citizenship certificate was enclosed. A patient card from Toronto General Hospital with Mr. Abouelmaati's name on it was also found at the site.") (111802)

CANADA.com (THE DAILY TELEGRAPH and files from THE ASSOCIATED PRESS): "AL-QAIDA VIDEO PUTS HOTELS ON ALERT English Speaking Terrorists Trained to Execute Guests" (111702)

TIMES ONLINE.co.uk: "'AL-QAEDA MAN' HELD FOR HOTEL CAR BOMB PLOT" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The CIA is questioning a leading al-Qaeda fundraiser arrested in Kuwait, whom they accuse of plotting a car bomb at a hotel in Yemen used by American military personnel. Intelligence sources say that Mohsen al-Fadhli, who has been moved to a secret location, has also confessed to funding last month's attack on a French oil tanker off the Yemeni coast.") (111802)

USEMBASSY.state.gov: "U.S. EMBASSIES AND OTHER DIPLOMATIC MISSIONS"

WKMG.com - LOCAL 6.com: "POLICE: AIRPORT SCREENER STOPS MAN WITH MEAT CLEAVER" (ARTICLE NOTE: The suspect is identified as Joseph Jarvens Almeida, age 39, a Sri Lankan citizen.) (111802)

JERUSALEM POST.com: "TURKISH SECURITY: EL AL HIJACKER PLANNED 9/11-LIKE ATTACK IN TEL AVIV" by Matthew Gutman (ARTICLE NOTE: The suspect is identified as Tawfik Fukara, age 23. The weapon was a pocketknife.) (111902)

OREGON LIVE.com - THE OREGONION: "FBI TRACKED SAUDI STUDYING AT PORTLAND COMMUNITY COLLEGE" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: The Saudi, who was studying aircraft maintenance was identified as Tareq S. al-Jahini, age 29.)

stepping back in time...SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: ATTACK ON AMERICA!

9 posted on 11/18/2002 7:29:22 PM PST by Cindy
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We hope the President's rejection of anti-Muslim hate speech will be followed by similar statements from other elected officials and from mainstream religious leaders," commented Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) communications director Ibrahim Hooper.

Translated: Our wish is that you will still not deport us and allow us to learn terrorism within your own borders. All your aircraft are belong to us.

10 posted on 11/18/2002 7:33:27 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: rickmichaels
Muslims must disavow Osama's message

So exactly where are all these muslims that must disavow this message? None have been in the mainscream media. Does that mean they don't exist..like conservatives don't exist?

11 posted on 11/18/2002 7:36:26 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: rickmichaels
All the negative press about Christians shouting about Muslims

is helping get some truth out there!

The radical militant islamists aren't hurting mainstream islam.
They're practicing what the Koran and Mohammed models and insists on.

12 posted on 11/18/2002 10:08:44 PM PST by Taiwan Bocks
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To: rickmichaels
>Sorry. Reiterating grievances isn't enough to convince the world that bin Laden is only engaged in wishful thinking when he says he speaks for "the Muslim nation."

Here's an option. Perhaps they agree with what bin Laden says.

13 posted on 11/19/2002 12:10:35 AM PST by Dialup Llama
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Sheik: 'It's OK to kill non-Muslims'
14 posted on 11/19/2002 9:01:29 AM PST by spycatcher
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