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Didn't Hillary claim that she was named after the British explorer until she was confronted with the fact that she was alive when it happened?
1 posted on 11/19/2002 11:52:24 AM PST by ewing
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Once China releases the Tibetan people from their enslavement and gives them back their nation, then we'll talk about changing the mountain's name. OK, commies?
2 posted on 11/19/2002 11:58:22 AM PST by SunStar
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To: ewing
as it was Tibetans themselves who first discovered the peak.

Talk about stating the obvious. Who was under the impression that they weren't? What do these people want, an asterisk next to Hillary? Who cares? It's not news when a sherpa goes up, it's news when a pasty-faced white boy does. (related phenomenon: dunking in the WNBA).

3 posted on 11/19/2002 11:59:45 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: ewing
For a different article on the same subject:

China's pique at peak of colonial cheek (they want us to call Mt. Everest “Qomolangma”)

4 posted on 11/19/2002 12:00:26 PM PST by dead
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Didn't we learn a few months ago that Everest isn't the highest peak after all? There is another behind it that is a few feet higher.
5 posted on 11/19/2002 12:01:04 PM PST by RightWhale
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I think she was alive when it happened. It's just that most parents don't rename their children when they're almost five, which was, IIRC, her age when Edmund Hillary climbed Everest.

And...I'm still calling it "Everest", so there.

6 posted on 11/19/2002 12:01:16 PM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: ewing; sultan88; scholar; ForGod'sSake; Mudboy Slim
"Didn't Hillary claim that she was named after the British explorer until she was confronted with the fact that she was alive when it happened?"

But she was named after the damned thing!

...Hillary Rodham "Qomolangma" Clinton.

8 posted on 11/19/2002 12:03:41 PM PST by Landru
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To: ewing
Breaking News:

CHINESE LECTURING WESTERN WORLD OF THE FINER POINTS OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.

Film at eleven.

9 posted on 11/19/2002 12:04:25 PM PST by WaveThatFlag
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To: ewing; sultan88; scholar; ForGod'sSake; Mudboy Slim
Oh yea; & I almost forgot.

...Tibet was *invented* by Al Gore, too.

10 posted on 11/19/2002 12:05:35 PM PST by Landru
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To: ewing
Dear Politically Correct Crowd,
MOUNT
FREAKING
EVEREST!!!!

Sincerely Glad To Be A
Recovering_Democrat.

11 posted on 11/19/2002 12:06:17 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: ewing
A mountain by any other name is still a bitch to climb...
12 posted on 11/19/2002 12:10:24 PM PST by trebb
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Why not just call it "Bob"?
13 posted on 11/19/2002 12:11:52 PM PST by tuckrdout
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To: ewing
the border of China's Tibet and Nepal

This is the communist propaganda machine at its best: in an article on another topic, the claim that Tibet belongs to Chine is just "dropped in" for a succonsciense to consume.

15 posted on 11/19/2002 12:26:28 PM PST by TopQuark
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I thought "Qomolangma" was Tibetan for "why are you pointing at the mountain?"
16 posted on 11/19/2002 12:34:21 PM PST by jdege
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To: ewing
Actually Mt.McKinley is the tallest...
Everest sits on a 3000 ft plateau.....
Mt.Kinley goes all the way from sea level to just a few feet less than Everest...and is a far larger mountain besides...Mt.Kinley(Denali) is in Alaska..
19 posted on 11/19/2002 12:45:28 PM PST by hosepipe
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It was named Everest after the guy that first thought it was the highest. I believe he worked for the cartography arm of the British Alpine Club or something.

It will always be Everest to me.

20 posted on 11/19/2002 12:49:48 PM PST by abner
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Too long a name for us Americans to remember. Everest it stays. Or "K1" for short.
26 posted on 11/19/2002 1:04:03 PM PST by SamAdams76
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The Chinese are trying to exterminate the Tibetans.
Maybe it should be called slaughter mountain.
32 posted on 11/19/2002 1:40:52 PM PST by BlackJack
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OK, the mountain straddles the border between Nepal and Tibet. But in which country does its highest point lie, or is that point precisely on the border?
39 posted on 11/19/2002 2:48:02 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina
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To: ewing
So is it Donau or Danube? Scotland or Ecosse? Eire or Ireland? How many languages on Earth? Each one of them usually has a totally different name for different places or features. Who are we going to be preferential to and who not? Why tell people they can't use words from their own language to describe something? I think the overwhelming consideration is does the person I am addressing understand what I'm talking about? I didn't know what the f--- people were talking about when I started hearing the word Denali thrown about.

Eskimos have dozens of words for snow. Shouldn't we use all of them instead of our less respectful Germanic word when we're in Alaska?

If we use the prefix aqua instead of hydro aren't we discriminating against Greek people? Shouldn't we stick to our Germanic 'water'? Africans are what the Romans named the people living there. When we call people Africans or African Americans we are disrespecting them by this convoluted logic.

Some foreign words are extremely hard to pronounce if you didn't grow up speaking the tongue- note the French problem with the letter "H", the Japanese have trouble with some letters in English. It would be awfully pompous of me to insist that the Japanese use an American term for something when they are speaking in their own language- particularly if the word has a phoneme that doesn't even exist in their own language.

Other cultures have their ways of naming things- Western culture has its ways. In English we tend to name mountains in honor of a person instead of stringing together syllables which describe a physical attribute. In other words- every mountain is a mountain but it will be accompanied by the person honored. This isn't an across the board rule and people shouldn't get worked up about it. Forests and Rivers we tend to use native names or descriptive names as well as Person Honoring names. We're not sitting there thinking- "How can we best sh!t on the native culture while elevating our own- I know! Let's call it Mt McKinley!"

This is silly to the absurd. I'm pretty sure I've read that Everest has many different names depending upon which people you're talking to. The Chinese call it what they will. The Indians call it what they do, as do the Sherpas. We call it Everest.

What I do disagree with is giving Hillary sole credit for being the first man to summit this mountain. By his own account he and Sherpa Tenzing Norgay summited side by side. Who was the first man to summit? Two men summited together. Who was the first Westerner? Hillary. Imagine if a Sherpa had accompanied Armstrong to the moon, got out of the capsule, set up cameras and what not and then Neil jumps out and says "One small step for..." Tenzing Norgay and Sir Edmond Hillary both did what nobody had ever done before- Sherpa or Westerner. They helped each other, relied on each other, probably would not have made it without each other. By their own words they summited together. They should get equal credit.

41 posted on 11/19/2002 2:53:26 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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In the Tibetan language, Qomolangma represents the mother goddess of the earth.

Sounds more like what my grandmother used to say after she sat down on the outhouse seat an hour after I last used it.

44 posted on 11/19/2002 3:07:25 PM PST by Old Professer
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