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To: spycatcher
I guess you haven't been paying attention to other Michael Jackson jokes, Jay Leno's jokes about Angelina Jolie and her brother, the Gore campaign's frustrations with his asexuality, this thread, or a dictionary.

I don't watch Leno, nor do I know who Jolie is.

You've completly missed the point, the humor, the irony, and used several words incorrectly, including "puritan." If anyone on this thread is a Puritan, too afraid to deal with the sexual overtones deliberately created by the Gore family, it's you.

I'm not afraid of anything. I spoke out against crudeness, that doesn't mean I'm afraid of the discussion about crudeness. I speak out against high taxes all the time, that doesn't mean I'm afraid of discussions about high taxes.

And as you project your puritanism on others, we're not allowed to joke about it either. Next, you'll be telling everyone to "get thee to a nunnery." Time for you to grow up and lighten up.

I didn't tell anyone to shut up. I told you twice when I first began to discuss this with you that I was not here to disrupt your thread, but to offer a different point of view for any lurkers who may have been offended by the crudeness and cold-natured posts that are on this thread. You've tried and tried to convince me that incest jokes are OK but I'm not buying it, nor do I have any delusions about changing your standard of political discourse. In your world these things are fine, in mine they're overboard. In your world the types of photos that are on this thread are overboard, in mine they're not. We both have different standards. You've let yours be known, I've let mine be known. You can't accept that?

By the way I don't have a low opinion of you because of this thread, I just don't think you realize how offensive these threads are to a lot of normal people. Independents decide elections and they don't understand these kinds of attacks on normal behavior.

113 posted on 11/21/2002 12:35:55 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
they don't understand these kinds of attacks on normal behavior.

Most of us don't understand how anyone could think there's anything "normal" about a young woman in her 20s putting her head on her father's lap. We're not joking about incest, we're commenting on what we perceive as strange behavior.

114 posted on 11/21/2002 1:00:36 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: #3Fan
You still aren't getting that others see that the crudeness is in Gore's lap, in the context of his whole campaign to make him seem like a sexual animal. We all cringe. And when people joke about something that makes them cringe, it's not simply for laughs, or to be cold, it's to relieve the discomfort. That's part of being human.

You really need to broaden you understanding about people and cultural norms, and not boil it all down to some bizarre oxymoron in you mind where people are being "crude puritans." I got your point from your first post and gave you the benefit of the doubt, but you're still missing the political point completely and have no sense of humor whatsoever. The joke is about the publicity photo in the context of the Gore family campaign to make him a sex symbol. It's not about actual incest, it's about how they like to play up daddy's sexiness and leave us guessing.

116 posted on 11/21/2002 1:28:14 PM PST by spycatcher
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